Plans for an iPad version of Seadragon Mobile?

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Hi,

I love the Seadragon Mobile App on the iPhone. But now that we have the iPad: Are there any plans to update the existing App to support the much higher screen resolution of the iPad? It would make clearly become a very impressive showcase!

Mike
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Posted 10 years ago

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Bill Crow, Seadragon Group Manager

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Official Response
Seadragon Mobile was a fun little proof-of-concept. We have no plans for any updates.

The current version works reasonably well on the iPad.

Bill Crow
Seadragon Group Manager
Microsoft Live Labs
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Oskar Austegard

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Any chance of MS releasing the code on codeplex? It'd be a great starting point for a multitude of applications.
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Oskar Austegard

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Any chance of MS releasing the code on codeplex? It'd be a great starting point for a multitude of applications.
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Bill Crow, Seadragon Group Manager

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No plans to release the code. Again, this was a one-time proof-of-concept, and we've moved on to new stuff.
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Mike Pearson

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So its nothing to do with the popularity of the iPad and Steve Ballmer saying a Windows alternative to the iPad is Microsoft's chief priority?
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Chris Camargo

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Boo! We want iPad! We want iPad!

No, but seriously; a pixel-doubled version of Deep Zoom Content is lacking pretty heavily in the "impressiveness" department. I know I'd love to see an iPad version of this app. Heck, it wouldn't even need to change much. Just expand that viewing frame.

As a photographer who regularly shoots high-resolution stitched panoramas, I know it'd be a killer app to use when showing off my work to potential clients.
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Julien Chaumond

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Too bad!

Any suggestion for an alternative for the iPad, anyone?
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reisner@med.unc.edu

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With extension the app would be extremely useful for viewing a variety of medical images and as a companion to an e-book!
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Mathew Tizard

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Microsoft's lack of interest in one of its own cooler technologies is surprising and disappointing. I think someone needs to pay some attention to this and wake up, if MS plans on surviving the decade.
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Chris Camargo

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I think what we have here is a little thing called "demand." It'd be nice if Microsoft cared about that.
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You guys should all check out Seadragon Ajax! It's built purely on web standards, which means it works on the iPhone and iPad. And Safari Mobile is only getting better and faster, so Seadragon Ajax is only getting better and faster. We'll be exploring what more we can do with HTML5 and Ajax a bit more in the near future, so hopefully that will meet your guys' demand. =)
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I believe there are still a few major differences with using Seadragon Ajax as the replacement for the Seadragon Mobile App.

* As you mentioned Safari Mobile is getting faster, however the performance is still sub-par compared to the native app. This performance issue effects the viability of making a product based on it. The zoom in / out effect jitters.

* The Ajax version does not support collections.

* No App Store presence. This affects the UX of a product. Many customers look for apps via the App store and don't want to go through a process for adding a web page as an app. I believe even Microsoft's Bing App uses a version of Seadragon (or deep zoom equivalent) under the covers. Yet that team chose a native app opposed to a web based app.

* No OS integration. As I mentioned above Bing maps integrates with the OS API for things like location. Using the Seadragon Ajax version you could not do this.
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I'll second the fact that Seadragon Ajax is not a viable solution for the iPad.

As a alternative though, I am using the built-in iPad photo browser which does a pretty good job at displaying medium-sized pictures.

Has anyone tried displayed very large pictures with it? Is there a max size that large pictures are cropped to?
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reisner@med.unc.edu

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Let me second Aseem Kishore's comments. I have been using S/A for a virtual microscopy project at our medical school and it is a very useful tool and fun to work with. Undoubtedly javascript engines will improve on browsers running on mobile devices.
Now a question comment. Deep Zoom Composer is a really useful tool for preparing S/A output but there seems to be an intrinsic limitation to image size and the tiling engine appears to be very slow (16 hours on my last project). Microsoft ICE-although designed as a sophisticated panorama tool, does not appear to have a size limitation and the tiling engine is about 20 fold faster. Am I missing something about Composer? Any way to sort of ummm merge the capabilities of the two?
Anyone at Microsoft or out in webland interested in talking about using S/A in medical imaging-educational projects??
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Aseem,
Thanks a lot for your response. I did have indeed a look already at Seadragon Ajax, and I like what I see so far, but it is unfortunately still a long way togo before it can compete with the performance and experience we saw on the native Seadragon Mobile client on the iPhone.

I am still rather disappointed that nobody at MS is willing to invest a little bit of time to adjust the existing iPhone app to make it a native/universal app using the much better screen real estate of the iPad. It would be such a great way to show the possibilities of Seadragon and DeepZoom.

I do totally understand that this was a proof of concept, and I have no idea how often the app had been downloaded at the time, but I think this is once a gain a missed opportunity.

I still haven't given up all hope yet.