Seadragon.com: Flickr, Developer & Showcase

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We're excited to share that we released a big update to Seadragon.com today. In no particular order...

Seadragon ♥ Flickr
You can now paste Flickr photo page links into Seadragon.com and we'll do the rest, i.e:

  • Figure out the largest available size

  • Link back to the photo page

  • Provide proper attribution including author name

  • Display the original photo title on our page


We're working very hard to make existing Flickr photos on Seadragon.com benefit from the same improvements very soon.

In the meantime experience how these new features look in action:
http://seadragon.com/view/fry

Seadragon Developer
Check out our new developer section which features detailed information about our technologies, tools and file formats. Learn everything you need to know in order to create your own Seadragon experience:
http://seadragon.com/developer

Seadragon Showcase
We now have a showcase section which features what we believe to be some the best Seadragon experiences we and others have built:
http://seadragon.com/showcase

We're very proud to feature the fantastic Running the Numbers collection from Seattle artist Chris Jordan on:
http://seadragon.com/showcase/chris-j...

We hope you're as excited about these new features as we are.
Play around with them and let us know what you think!
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Very nice work!


  • I wonder if it is possible to intercept direct links to intermediate sizes of flickr photos based on their domain and perform your new policy of discovering the largest version of that image publicly available and linking back to their official front page, author and title included, etc.


  • I also love that the developer info has been organized together and labeled as such as well as the links to all the third party DZI and DZC generating tools.


  • I'm interested that to my knowledge Snapdragon hasn't been mentioned on the Live Labs blog or in any news articles that I'm aware of.


  • I'll be glad to see the new method for handling flickr URLs and linking back come to the top 20 photo sharing sites instead of flickr only.


  • Any chance of updating the Chris Jordan (and presumably others in the future) showcase to be more mobile-friendly, as with the rest of the images?

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Nathanael,

Glad you like it!

To answer some of your questions:

  • At this point, we don't do any processing on direct image links from Flickr: First, because it's a time-consuming operation on the server where the user potentially has to wait unnecessarily. Second, we assume the user knows what he wants considering he got the image URL. Who knows, maybe this is something to consider for the future. Generally, we started working more data-driven and the beforementioned Flickr features addressed the most common use cases we didn't handle properly.

  • PDC is this starting tomorrow. Therefore the last couple of weeks were quite crazy around here. Expect to hear/read more about Snapdragon during/after PDC.

  • Yes, better integration with other photo sites is something we're looking into. Again, the data clearly pointed us to making Flickr work better first. When you say top 20 photo sharing sites, which did you have in mind particularly?



How's all this for an answer?

Cheers,
Daniel
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I know that this should be directed more at Aseem, and filed under Zoom.it, but I'm posting it here because this discussion was already happening along these lines and I don't want to clutter up the new forum for new people who are coming to it fresh.

Re: other image sites, a personal request for me would certainly be http://deviantart.com. Other contenders might be http://webshots.com, http://smugmug, http://picasaweb.google.com, http://fotki.com (not terribly well known to me, but willing to host large image files and provide accessible URLs)... those are the ones that come readily to mind.
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Yes, thanks much Nate, I totally agree! We'll see if we can find the time to get to these. =)
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Aseem Kishore, Former Employee

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Big props to Daniel -- the Flickr work was all him, as part of his internship here on the Seadragon team. Great work, Daniel!

To add on a couple of points to the above:

Snapdragon was indeed mentioned in a CNET article today! And while it wasn't mentioned in the Live Labs blog, it was in our unofficial Dragonosticism blog.

As for updating the Chris Jordan showcase to be more mobile-friendly, maybe at some point in the future, but for now that's fairly low priority. It's tough because mobile solutions have to be tailored at the application level and can't be fully solved at the platform level, so we're forced to go about it on a case-by-case basis.

Glad you like the changes though! I'm happy that we're expanding Seadragon.com the way we are. Look for more in the future.
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Hi,
I can't seem to find image hosting for my huge image (38mb, 221 megapixel) that I'd like to submit on your seadragon.com page. And flickr pro accounts are limited to 20mb max size :^( Any suggestions?

And are you folks at Seadragon OK with such huge images? It's an awsome image from last weekend of a storm over mountains in the CA desert, stitched from about 30 shots...

thanks,
Charliewallace
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Charlie,

We absolutely would love you to showcase your image using Seadragon – the bigger the better! For hosting, I can recommend to try Windows Live™ SkyDrive which currently offers you 25GB for free.

Cheers,
Daniel
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Note that upload size is limited to 50 MB per file on Skydrive.
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Thanks Daniel! Indeed, I was able to upload to SkyDrive, and now I have a working link to that jpg, see below. However, when I paste it into the Seadragon link field, I've had several upload failures. I've clicked on Try Again, but I'm seeing no progress on the progress bar... here's the link:
http://gjh20g.blu.livefilestore.com/y...

Suggestions?
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Charlie, I looked into it and it was a transient error that shouldn't happen. I've restarted it and hopefully it works this time. Thanks for your patience!
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Thanks! Success! Check out
http://www.seadragon.com/view/hti

Thanks for the help, that's great customer service!

This picture was taken last Saturday 11/29/09 from the Culp Valley Overlook in Anza-Borrego Desert Park, east of San Diego in California, looking west towards the mountains. A storm was trying to surge over the mountains, leaving snow on the upper reaches. At the bottom are several upper forks of Hellhole Canyon; if you zoom in you can see cottonwood trees changing color.

This photo was stitched from 64 10mp images using Autopano Pro. It's 250 megapixels (a quarter of a gigapixel!), dimensions are 26690x9375.

thanks again,
Charlie Wallace
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I just stumbled over seadragon and absolutely love the integration of Flickr. This is great for showing off huge panoramas.

One minor glitch though. I'm Swiss, so my name (Haberthür) has one of those funky umlauts. This leads to a not so nice attribution on the bottom of the image (as seen here http://www.seadragon.com/view/kdg ). It would be lovely if you'd support HTML.-entities.

Apart from that I'm stoked, this is great stuff!
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Habi, thanks for the heads-up. We're already taking care to HTML-encode the text in the output, so it seems like you've found a different bug! We'll look into it and see if we can figure out where the problem lies.
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Regarding the Seadragon Showcase, I see that it's all content other than the deep-zoom images people have been posting at seadragon.com, such as this one of mine:
http://seadragon.com/view/hva

Also, it's not being updated very often, not enough to keep people checking back for new things to look at.

Sure would be good to have a page where we could look at what people are posting...

Maybe the problem is the anonymous nature of the service?
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As a newcomer to Seadragon I've spent a couple of hours today trying to figure out how to take a look at the things other folks have been doing, to gain ideas and also to be impressed by their pictures.

I haven't been able to figure out how to do this, however, without knowing what to type in (such as http://seadragon.com/view/n0q - which is one of my own images).

If there is a page somewhere it seems to be well hidden, so seeing the post from charliewallace has reassured me that I'm not just missing an obvious link.
Also - how do I discover on a site whether the images are available to be viewed via Seadragon? Or is it reliant on there being a link added by the poster?

Apologies if I should have read something somewhere, but even trying a search didn't reveal anything helpful.
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Charlie and Geoff,

Apologies for the delayed reply!

There is indeed no gallery of publicly submitted images yet. The short answer is indeed due to the anonymous nature of the service. We aren't actively monitoring every submission; instead, we reactively take down offensive and abuse images. This means we wouldn't want to show any random image, as it may be offensive.

So if we were to have a gallery of publicly submitted images, it would have to consist of handpicked ones. That's absolutely not a bad idea, and we've thought about it from the start, but we just haven't had the resources/bandwidth (in a figurative sense) to do this yet.

But thanks for sharing your interest; we'll consider it. Let us know if we can answer any other questions.

Cheers!
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Oh, and to address a couple of the other comments:

- Indeed, the showcase isn't being updated often enough. Again this is because these sites are handpicked, and we're just a tiny labs team. But, we do have plans to get an official blog set up, so at least that way you can follow the blog e.g. via RSS and get notified of updates.

- In theory, you can view any image in Seadragon. Whatever site you're on, if you want to view an image on that site in Seadragon, just paste the image's URL into Seadragon, and voila. You won't be able to see it embedded into the site directly without the author doing so, but does that shed some light for now?
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Is this feature broken at the moment? The Seadragon service appears to start converting my image if I give it e.g. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mjs/4596... as the input, but after about 30 seconds it terminates with the message "Sorry, an unexpected error occurred." (If I pass the full URL of the original image directly to Seadragon I get the same error.)
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I looked into it, and the detailed error is "The image has corrupted metadata header." This has nothing to do with Flickr. We'll see if there's any workaround on our end, but in the meantime, maybe try re-saving the photo in e.g. Photoshop and updating the version on Flickr?
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Thanks for the quick response! I tried creating the JPEG with a different program, and as you guessed, this worked out fine. (The original image was exported with Aperture, with (I think) the default settings. I wonder what was going wrong?)
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I don't know what was going wrong (or why Aperture does that), but great news -- I found out that our latest tools are more robust and they now gracefully ignore this error! Our next update to the site will include this fix, so this hopefully won't be an issue in the future.
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I don't know what was going wrong (or why Aperture does that), but great news -- I found out that our latest tools are more robust and they now gracefully ignore this error! Our next update to the site will include this fix, so this hopefully won't be an issue in the future.
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The guys help me please with my question I tired to wait you