What features should we add to Photosynth?

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We've got our backlog list of things that we know will make Photosynth better, but I'm sure we're only seeing some of the opportunities here. What would make Photosynth drmatically more useful and fun for YOU?
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David Gedye, Principal Group Manager

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* Possibility to add other synth users to a friends list or a subscribers list.
*The possibility to alow viewers to rank how good your synth is.
*Alow users to prieview what the synth wil look like before they upload it.
*Alow the creator to add text inside the synth. Could be to explain something about the picture/synth or to add a url etc.
*Alow users to add sound, could be anything from info you want to give to the local sounds in the area. Possibilities are endless.
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It would be incredibly useful - and I'm already envisioning the potential scientific applications - to be able to export the point cloud as a simple text file with the X,Y,Z coordinates. Instead of attempting to incorporate additional 3D modeling capabilities into this program, the user could use other products such as AutoCAD, ArcGIS, Google Earth, etc. to visualize their model. I'd be thrilled to simply take all the photos of a feature, and then take a few GPS points on identifiable points on the feature so that once it is photosynthed, I could then export the point cloud and then reference it into a real-world coordinate system.
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I could write my own viewer if it was as simple as X Y Z info. But I wouldn't as it would suck.
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DPinaB

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To get real 3d objects you could fill the black spaces between the coloured dots with the correct fragments from the uploaded pictures. it mustn't be hard from where you're now.
That way, we could look to things like in a game.
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1. Restriction of embedding of photosynth if the owner does not want to allow embedding of his works.
2. Making photosynth private.
3. Hosting my photosynth right on my own web server.
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make photosynth avaible for MAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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bd

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repeat: please do it for mac or parallels soon
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Patrick Rochefort

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Some quick background: I want to use Photosynth for site safety inspections, accident/incident investigations, and other applications professionally where recreation of scenes would be valuable for supervisory/managerial/legal review.

Because of this context, a number of features that Photosynth would need to provide to fit this sort of need:

1. Private / restricted access to photosynths, to preserve client confidentiality. Without this feature, I cannot use Photosynth for the purpose of my company's needs.

2. Support for later amendments/additions of photographs to an existing synth. Much of my work requires re-visits of a changing, dynamic worksite, and the ability to later add photos to an existing synth and have them integrate would be of tremendous value.

3. Going hand in hand with #2, being able to filter the synth viewing chronologically; IE, telling the software "Only show me photos from this date range", particularly important if reviewing a particular state of a dynamic area.

4. This is probably very pie-in-the-sky, but support for video integrating into a photosynth would be exquisite. A few sweeps of a camera capturing the same amount of data as fifty photographs would be very nice indeed.

5. An isometric photogroup view would make navigation of dense photosynths useful.

6. Support for GPS coordinates of where the photographer was standing, and orientation thereof. This in and of itself would probably prove tremendously useful for relational positioning of photographs.

7. The ability to save a photosynth file locally / local network-ly, instead of strictly via the server, thus allowing confidentiality and data control, not to mention MUCH faster loading times.

Thanks for reading this.

Patrick Rochefort,
Safety Coordination Services
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Ability to merge synths together to make an even better experience of places like Machu Picchu, Angkor Area etc
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David Gedye, Principal Group Manager

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Patrick -- thanks for your thoughtful response.

Many of the things you want are features that others have requested, and they're on our "backlog". But I have a question about the privacy issue that I'd love your help with.

For the needs of client confidentiality, would it be sufficient for these synths to be "not discoverable" on the site (i.e. they never show up in searches, or in explores, or even when somebody other than yourself views your "your synths" page?

This is actually a pretty weak form of privacy, but easy to implement. It is weak because as soon as you distribute the URL of the synth to your client (or anyone else), they could forward it to other people and then it might be widely seen.

The stronger form of privacy is to actively restrict people who are not logged in, and not on your deisgnated "buddy" list from viewing it even if they get the URL.

This stronger form means more work for us, but also more work for you -- you have to make sure that all the people you want to share it with have accounts, and you've specifically enabled each of them, etc. etc.

Actually -- as people will doubteless note, there are other tactics too, but I'd appreciate a quick read on whether he weaker form of privacy would be acceptable for your needs?

Thnaks very much,
David Gedye -- Photosynth Group Manager
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Thank you for your timely reply, David.

Having both forms of privacy would be good options; "weak" privacy for non-sensitive personal uses. But insofar as professional uses go, "strong" privacy and "trusted" sharing would be best.

One example of this, especially, is accident/incident investigations. That's precisely the sort of photosynth where access would be highly restricted, often to a few trusted, key individuals.

Ideally, publically-accessible-but-password-protected might be best; a URL you can distribute to trusted users, with an attendant password.

Also suitable for professional distribution would be by-email-only publication of a photosynth.

Ultimately, my concern is access control; ensuring just the people I want to see a synth can see it. The less they have to do on their end, the better. (Requiring them to sign up for an account, for example, would provide a time barrier some of my clients would balk at. When a CEO of a drilling company wants that accident report in 48 hours, and I'm appointment #8 of a 20 appointment day, asking him to take 5 minutes to register *and* install a program is going to be a barrier.)

If you have any questions or clarifications needed, I'll be happy to help.

Patrick Rochefort,
Safety Coordination Services
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Weaker will be fine for now. Some sort of privacy anyway. Then work on stronger.
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licensing the engine for use at large enterprises. this coupled with a WSS 3.0 and MOSS 2007 integration will give another dimension to social networks. synths can be created in the backend for all MtSite Profile pitures marked share. individual synths can be created by the collection of picture tags.
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Ability to draw lines and add text inside a synth. That would be perfect for climbing guides :)

The lines could snap to nearest 3D-point when drawing, and be painted on top of any picture of the 3D-points.

http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=3...
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I'd like to see the photosynth site expanded a bit. I'd like to be able to comment on people's synths and be able to link to the synth starting at a particular image.
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I agree that the site could be expanded a lot, but the two features you ask for are already present.

For instance, on your synth "The Green Horse", here is a link to start zoomed in on the saddle: http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=5...

To get links like that, just move to where you'd like someone else to start in your synth (or any synth) then click on the envelope icon to the right of the synth. The resulting link will include the exact photo, zoom level, angle, and whether you are in 2D or 3D mode. I'm not sure whether it includes whether you've toggled the point cloud on or off, but it's quite customizable.

You should also see a comment underneath it. :)

Hope that helps.
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I can't figure out how you did that. How do I add a comment and how do I pick the link? There is nothing terribly obvious on the UI that shows me what to click on.

Rule #1 of User Experience: Don't make your users think
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Nathanael Lawrence

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Oneironaut, do you still have this problem? My experience is that you simply need to be signed in to photosynth.net and the Post a Comment link and icon will appear beneath every synth.

If you are not signed in (to the site) the comment link will never appear for you.
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Can you make it not count our own visits when we're logged in and viewing our own synths?
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Shane

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Yes, I totally agree. Wish I knew how many were me, and how many are actually others. The way it is now could lead to people artificially increasing views.
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Andrew

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That would be great!
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David Gedye, Principal Group Manager

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We considered this, but in my informal surveys many people don't log in every time they view, so even if we did this, we'd also be counting some or most of the views that people did of their own synths. I concluded that we can't (easily) track other people's views, so I decided to relax about the view count and if somebody wants to sit and hit refresh on their page 100 times, more power to them!

What we really need -- as many people have said -- is a stars or favorites feature, so we can measure how many people thought a synth was worthy of attention. It's on the list.
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I have to admit, I'm really in love with "Synthing".
Is there any thought to letting us "help it along"?
Drawing a shape on an image and saying that it matches this same shape on another photo? How about editing in a similar fashion on an existing Synth?
It's nice to see your work, but being able to refine it is even better.
You guys have been doing amazing, and every time I log in, it seems a little more evolved, which means it's active and even more amazing! Thank you for your continued work.

(I can't say enough, I LOVE this tool. LOVE IT!)
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I think automatic is better. The procedure will be improved with time.
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I refer back to the first news that I had of photosynth on Youtube.
What impressed and exited me most was the way that Photosynth could bring together pictures from all across the web to 'produce something that was greater than the sum of it's parts'.
The current system misses this function completely
If I have some picture of, say, Trafalgar square and I tag them accordingly, why does it not join with other synths to produce the full result, as seen in the 'Notre Dame' section of this Youtube video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKwTur...
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I've been getting error messages (A0000009) for example, when trying to upload a synth.
The 'why did this happen?' link is no help.
It should be possible to change the A000009 type of message to something written in English so that I know what went wrong and can make some attempt to correct it before I go through the whole process of re-synthing, which can take up to an hour even on my dual-core 3gb ram machine.
Error messages in human language please.
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The ability to edit your photosynth after - I used 15 images and only 10 of them were actually used to make the final photosynth. Where's the edit button for this.
Manually align photos etc...

Oh and spherical/cubic panoramas
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Ok...probably been repeated above but too many posts for me to browse, so this is what I would like to see:
- GeoTagging capability
- Offline (would like to add personal synths such as my home or other locations that I do not really want Joe Public to view)
- ability to control the viewers via say LiveSpaces accounts so that I can choose which synths are private and which are public
- ability to add/remove pictures (edit) the synths at a later date

But other than that great product guys and am truely impressed!
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regarding the gui I just wrote: http://getsatisfaction.com/livelabs/t...
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David Palay

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Ability to combine several synths into one large one.
For example, synths of individual buildings at a college campus into a single synth of the campus
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Some form of manual hinting is essential, especially when synthing a real-world-scene where the photos were not taken with photosynth in mind, e.g. a wedding reception. Also the ability to add and remove images from a synth would greatly improve the finished quality of the synths.
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1. It would be great to see my and/or all synths on tv. So can't you bring the photosynth to the xbox 360?

2. It would also be great, if i could store my synths on my pc and/or burn them together with a viewer-application on cd/dvd to show it to people without internet.