What features should we add to Photosynth?

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We've got our backlog list of things that we know will make Photosynth better, but I'm sure we're only seeing some of the opportunities here. What would make Photosynth drmatically more useful and fun for YOU?
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It would be fun if photosynth could make a 3D Model out of the cloud, maybe also try with putting the textures on.
And also, it would be good if you could use Photosynth offline.
Thx, Maxi2811
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We are currently exploring the possibility to use Photosynth to catalogue precious artifacts. It would be interesting if the photosynth technology could be licensed corporately for internal use or remotely but with our own branding around the collections we capture.
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I'd like to second the requests made above for 3d export.
Please please add some basic 3D export for the point-cloud Photosythn generates internaly.
The previous version of photosyth showed us the angle and projections of all the camera, together with the referance points.

Exporting this to some standard 3D format (dxf,obj,etc) would be incredibly usefull for 3D artists to use as referances.
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Just thinking here...

- META data... allow me to add meta data to the synth... and the individual photos... really focus on letting me enhance the visual data with other types of data linking... or static meta data tags for searching

- build a search feature in the synth

- Hide the "stitching" (option turn off display of the photo stitching border)

- Ability to build path through photos... save... and auto-run path through photos... kind of like MS photo story 3.0

-- documents management... add "zones" to photo synth.... so you grap a photo and throw it to a zone... the zones will view the file extension... (JPEG, PDF, SWF, etc)... and cue a controller... so the PDF would allow zooming... the SWF would run... the photo would have zoom controls, cropping..

- Have a speed slider... to allow user control to overall speed of immersive experience... some synths are too jumpy... perhaps reflecting too few photos.. but something to smooth jumping between photos

- the 3 D dot structure is nice... but i'd rather view a 2-D synth... like the Hard Rock cafe example... with even more emphasis on the zoom feature to read text or grab a photo/document and throw it into a stack for pending review....

great work!
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Disclaimer, I don't understand the technical aspects behind the program. That said, what I had hoped to do with PS when I first learned of it was to make a Synth and embed it in Powerpoint and use it as part of my presentation to a client. I'm an architect and I want to document my tour of the site and include a fancy Photosynth to impress the client. I want to take my Photosynth and use it like a video file, put it on my blog, etc. (I think you can put it online now but I haven't tried yet?)
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Jaisn, Gabriel Walsh suggested a couple of tools (click here to view them) that will let you embed a web page in Powerpoint.

Once you choose one of those options, browse to the synth that you want to embed and look in the address bar of your browser. Find the part that says "view.aspx" and change it to "embed.aspx", then copy the whole URL and paste it into the webpage embedder for Powerpoint.

Please understand that this will require you to be connected to the internet and will require whatever computer you show it on to have Photosynth installed ahead of time. It may even require the Powerpoint plugin that you used to embed the web page to be installed on the computer that you view it on, so you'll probably just want to bring your own laptop for your presentation and hope that you can connect to your client's network without any problems. It is absolutely critical that your client have a fast internet connection or your presentation will end up taking a turn for the worse rather than for the better.

As for embedding a synth on your blog, it is much easier. At the right hand side of every synth you will find several icons. The first one in the row should be two angle brackets. Click on the icon and a textbox will appear that contains the HTML code that you can copy and paste into your blog. Again, remember that showing the synth to someone else on their computer will require them to have Photosynth installed in order to view it.

I hope that helps. Get back to me if I was unclear.
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Jaisn, Gabriel Walsh suggested a couple of tools (click here to view them) that will let you embed a web page in Powerpoint.

Once you choose one of those options, browse to the synth that you want to embed and look in the address bar of your browser. Find the part that says "view.aspx" and change it to "embed.aspx", then copy the whole URL and paste it into the webpage embedder for Powerpoint.

Please understand that this will require you to be connected to the internet and will require whatever computer you show it on to have Photosynth installed ahead of time. It may even require the Powerpoint plugin that you used to embed the web page to be installed on the computer that you view it on, so you'll probably just want to bring your own laptop for your presentation and hope that you can connect to your client's network without any problems. It is absolutely critical that your client have a fast internet connection or your presentation will end up taking a turn for the worse rather than for the better.

As for embedding a synth on your blog, it is much easier. At the right hand side of every synth you will find several icons. The first one in the row should be two angle brackets. Click on the icon and a textbox will appear that contains the HTML code that you can copy and paste into your blog. Again, remember that showing the synth to someone else on their computer will require them to have Photosynth installed in order to view it.

I hope that helps. Get back to me if I was unclear.
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Its impossible NOT to have it online at the moment :-/

I'm quite scared this things just going to turn into yet-another social photo sharing thing to be honest.
The potential for it to actualy be a tool that actual REAL work could benefit from I'm worried will be missed.
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I'm a university professor in GIScience and would like to know how I can get access to the relative-height point cloud so that I can compare its accuracy against (1) a LIDAR model and (2) a related digital terrain model derived from stereo-photography.

Thanks

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i dont no if im sending this message to the right spot but photosynth definately needs an option to turn of the images and leave the point cloud, because the sphinx looks like it would be really cool but the pictures get in the way and i cant hide them.
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Hi there, GodSpeed55,

To view the point cloud you can either hold down the Ctrl key and let it go when you want to view the images again or if you don't want to always hold Ctrl, you can use the 'P' key to toggle through:

1) Photos + Point Cloud
2) Point Cloud only
3) Photos only

For the rest of the keyboard controls, take a look at the last pages of the Photography Guide available from the How To Get Synthy page at photosynth.net.
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Photosynth doesn't line up my pictures accuratly It would be better to be able to manipulate the matching phase or have the option to rearrange the pics to a more accurate position. Is this possible to do?
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OK, here's a couple of easy ones:

When a logged in user views his or her own synths it should not update the view count.

or

There should be some notification when a comment is left on a synth—e-mail, an icon, or something.
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I agree make sure the stuff posted is synthy- there is a lot of non synthy stuff on there- and its not flicker or photo bucket- this is photosynth- something that took a lot of work to develop- and is the coolest thing I have seen in a long time!
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don't require a separate special install for the viewer. Use flash or silverilght if you can.

I'll probably create some nice synths but my non-computer geeks friends will just get confused trying to access it.
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bbilbro - there _is_ now a Silverlight version - works on Mac and Linux!
http://conceptdev.blogspot.com/2009/0...
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How adding rssfeed nice start have.
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I did a few photosynths this weekend at a PGA tournament. I posted a link below to one of them. There are a few things that I think would make this better.
1: I'd love to be able to pick the starting view point. It seems it wants to start with the widest photo, which isn't always the best frame. The opening photo is so important to making a good first impression. It alows you to pick the thumbnail, why not allow it to pick the starting frame?

2. I love how you can take people from really wide shots to tight close ups. The synther kicked out a few of my super tight photos from the stands of people with nice expressions and emotion cheering. I know where those photos should go. It would be great to have the option to manually place photos the synther kicked back.

3. Thanks for the new software. This has a lot of possibilities.

http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=d...

Pat Shannahan
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It would be nice if we could REPLACE a synth after adding or removing pictures to a previous synth.
Now, if we publish a synth with the same name, it will create a second synth (and we have to delete the first one). After a warning message (OK to replace or cancel?), it would replace the older synth, but KEEP tags, geotags, comments, number of views, and favourite links (stars).
And I allready ask for the LOG to have a different name for each different version (ie: name / date/hour/min)
Thank you
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Make it available on the Mac OS--a lot of home users and photographers are there. More ideas to come when I can actually try out Photosynth.
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ashinms

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only one problem.... It's called "Microsoft" Photosynth... In other words, It's owned by apple's sworn arch enemy. Probably not gonna happen.
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A preview feature, and manual stitching.

See: http://getsatisfaction.com/livelabs/t...
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I love how photosynth has been integrated into the new Bing maps. Those silver-light transitions pretty cool. BUT, when viewing and exploring the STREETSIDE imagery (for which the transitions are REALLY COOL) I'm not able to "stumble" into any photosynths...

So I'm now wondering if a WALK feature is possible?

Somehow create the 3d geometry from the point cloud (like everyone's been wanting to do, forever) or cross reference accurately geo-located photosynths with the Streetside images to bridge them together.

It might be comparable, or cooler then entering street-view spheres from Google Earth...

IMAGINE, exploring Microsoft STREET-SIDE and finding a Photosynth indicator. Then, more then simply viewing into a photosynth experience, you could go into an augmented synth with WALK NAVIGATION enabled.

So I guess I'm asking for 2 different things.
WALK mode navigation (simple 3d geometry derived from high level point clouds), and a silver-light bridge into WALK mode from Street-side.
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Holy Grail! I've just found Microsoft Vexcel GeoSynth!! Anyone have a volume license they'd care to share with the experimental artist community?
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MACINTOSH SUPPORT. PLEASE.
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Nathanael Lawrence

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pbresnan11, I take it you mean support for creating synths from a Mac? You can already view synths on Intel Macs if you install Silverlight.
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Psst. Check out the Photosynth 2014 Technical Preview.
Upload photos directly through Safari 7.
View the new synth types in WebGL.
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I'd like the ability to not only make a smooth, rendered picture from the point cloud, but to do it using the pictures. Imagine the program "bending" the flat pictures over the point cloud, creating a hi-res 3d model, instead of just connecting the dots.
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... and also have support of GIF filetypes, so that there is animation in the synth. Whichever points don't change or change very little from frame to frame in the GIF image are used to match to the rest of the still JPEGs, but when viewed, the GIF image allows for the viewer to experience a little movement and animation in their synth.
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Ashinms, long time no see!

Have you checked out the Photosynth 2014 Technical Preview yet?

No sign of synth linking at the moment, sadly, and the new four synth types are more constrained than original photosynths, but they do project the photos onto low polygon models while transitioning.

I'd love to get your thoughts over on the preview forum.
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Roger Guess

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Windows update rebooted my box last night right at the end of hours of uploading a 96% synthy 766 image upload.

How about a resume feature!!!!
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Nathanael Lawrence

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Roger, I feel your pain; I really do.

The bad news is that you'll have to retry and recalculate, as you well know.

The good news is that none of the individual photos which successfully uploaded to photosynth.net will ever have to upload again unless you edit them in some way between the first time you synthed them and the next time that you synth them.

Cheers!

P.S. I should probably make clear that individual photos are first converted to Seadragon's Deep Zoom Image format and immediately begin uploading from the very moment that you press the [Synth] button, so while you may have had a few hundred photos to upload, most of them are probably already on the server. When you retry, the remaining photos will upload while the calculations are performed again.
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Roger Guess

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Yes! All went just as you said! The second attempt was much faster! Thank you.
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Photosynth is a very impressive program-service, and the "Highlights" feature is great. Testing it made me wonder if you could make a similar tool/feature that would allow one to create picon-links to other complete synths/panos listed at one's account home page. One could then build a location-to-location "tour" for a viewer to navigate from pano/synth to pano/synth, highlights included. I'm interested in promoting such a resource for K-20 school field-trip/tour projects for online viewing -- tours of a school itself, of govt. buildings and historic places, museums, outdoor classrooms, arboretums, etc. Microsoft's ICE program could also be used for building standard panoramas for upload to Photosynth. Photosynth's 20GB hosting limit is plenty for school projects, and since it and the programs are free, that's great for schools.

Oh, and a feature to add MP3 audio to panos/synths for ambient location audio, narration, etc., would be great, too.

Thanks for the great resources.
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Hmmm.... MP3 support... Combine that with my GIF image idea, and we may just have a program to build video games from real life!! Ha Ha.
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NTLM support would be great. we use a hosted webfilter that authenticats using NTLM

so we are unable to use photosynth as it can not authenticate with the proxy. we would add allow rules to bypass the proxy but find the server details to allow is proving to be quite difficult
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Can you please add an option to turn "auto-capture" on or off? because the auto capture really causes problems when there is action. For example I want to film a huge panorama with fireworks. It is hard to stop the photos in time... i might catch a great firework going off then it will auto-capture again and cover the image with smoke instead.

It would be great to have more control.

Thank you. noe6@mac.com