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1) "how long are the webpage images cached on the servers" ?

Or any general rules if there are any at this time. (2010.08.20)

2) "Will there be "a way to expire them" in the future ?

(Like for deleting experimental test images. Preset image timeout sounds nice.)
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Official Response
Sorry for the delay in responding to your question, MvGulik!

1) For now actually, they're cached indefinitely -- but that definitely will change! We do want to be a proper cache and purge and refresh old content; we just haven't had the time to implement that side of the equation yet.

2) Ideally yes, there would be some way to force or request a refresh, but we're not sure yet how we'll expose that. One possibility is indeed some kind of timeout, after which maybe simply re-submitting the URL would "check" if the image has changed.

Let us know if you have any other ideas or food for thought.
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No problem.
Thanks for the clear info.
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a time out could be based on frequency of views.

how does one voluntarily remove the tag?

it seems to be affecting the ability to view the images on my phone. (webos)
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Artoerne, what do you mean by "tag"? What are you referring to?
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i mean when an image is submitted,

look at this:
http://artoerne.com/Rancher.htm

i can't get rid of the zoom on the website, or the secondary image. and the website doesn't display on a smartphone anymore.
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Ah, so you mean on the phone. Thanks for the heads-up. We know our embed doesn't work well on mobile devices, so for your mobile pages you could instead just link to the Zoom.it URL instead of embedding the viewer directly.
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but how do i get rid of the effect, to start again?
maybe i can say it this way, how do i "un-submit" the image?
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Aseem Kishore, Former Employee

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Just remove the embed from your webpage. The embed is the <script> tag.
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Zoom.it for me is great, fantastic !! thanks for this...

I thing that it could be good if the time is according to the use and visits of the site where is published the link of zoom.it. So if a blog or a web page is neglected by the owner for a long long time the embed can be erased.

Thanks, and so sorry for my english !!

www.glixoom.blogspot.com
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You're totally right, glixoom! Unfortunately, we no longer own Zoom.it and won't get the chance to implement this. Thanks for your suggestion, though!
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Hold on ... Who is "we" in "we no longer own Zoom.it" ?

"Microsoft Live Labs" as (development) department or "Microsoft" in general. (or something else)
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The department. Live Labs doesn't exist anymore (announcement and update), so Zoom.it is now owned by the Silverlight team.
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ow.. I see I'm running a little behind current affairs. :P
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Is there any update to this topic?

Are images still cached indefinitely? If not, how long will images stay live for? Is this time from their submission or last access?
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Zoom.it (or Seadragon.com as it was previously known) was always an experiment from a labs group (Microsoft Live Labs) which was disbanded in November of 2010, so no - don't expect any updates to the topic.

As for the images currently viewable on Zoom.it, to the best of my knowledge, all deep zoom images stored in Zoom.it since its July 2009 launch as Seadragon.com are still viewable today.

Although zoom.it currently continues to be hosted, do not always expect this to be the case.

Look up Daniel Gasienica and Ian Gilman's replies in this topic for an open source alternative (both of them worked on the technology used in Zoom.it before leaving Microsoft).

As for Zoom.it, if there is a page or image which you (or someone else) have previously generated a deep zoom image of with Zoom.it in the past which you'd like a fresh copy of, you can append a query or URL fragment on the end of the URL.

For example, if I had previously generated a screenshot of
http://photosynth.net/preview/ and I wanted a recent snapshot from today I could simply change the URL to
http://photosynth.net/preview/#
http://photosynth.net/preview/?

And if this was an image that was going to change with some regularity that I was going to capture (the front page of http://theverge.com/microsoft for example) then you could add the date after the hash in the URL fragment such as
http://theverge.com/microsoft#2014011...

This keeps the same page or image as the target, but allows the URL submitted to Zoom.it to be unique and therefore to generate a new zoomable image.
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Thank you very much for your reply.

With regard to images stored in Zoom.it being viewable today, are you aware of any time limitations to recent images, for example, does an image need to be accessed via the Zoom.it URL to keep it active?

What seems to be happening it after a week of not viewing the image via the embedded control, the image is not available until the original is refreshed.
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I'm not familiar with such a thing, but I confess that I do not use the embed very often.

Here's an old blog post of mine from last year where I embedded a number of zoom.it images. None of the zoom.it URLs have been visited by me recently and my blog is not frequented by anyone (even me :) but when I loaded this post all the embedded deep zoom images loaded right up.