zoom.it is being discontinued

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Thank you for five amazing years of ideas, inspiration, enthusiasm & support!

But, the time has come, and Zoom.it is now being discontinued. The technology behind the site continues to live on and is available in multiple forms.

Seadragon technology continues to be available as the Deep Zoom feature in Silverlight, a shining example of Silverlight's ability to "light up the web". (http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/...)

In addition, there are two Open Source projects that continue to improve this technology. The first is OpenSeadragon (http://openseadragon.github.io/) which was created by members of the original Seadragon team, as well as Seadragon Ajax (http://www.asp.net/AjaxLibrary/AjaxCo...) which was the original project from Microsoft's Live Labs group.

The timeline for the end of service is as follows:
August 15th, All uploads will be suspended and on September 15th, all image hosting will cease and the service terminated.

We apologize for any issues that this might cause.
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Bill Crow, Seadragon Group Manager

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Cedric

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Hi Bill

I am devastated. I have over 10 000 pictures, my business depend on it.
What can we do to make the service continue ?

Thank you
Cedric
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Nathanael Lawrence

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Bill, thanks for the warning. I have a few questions.

1. How much data does the entire zoom.it site measure at this point including all DZIs? (I'm wondering how much it would take me to host it myself.)

2. Would Microsoft be willing to make a mirror of the site available for download for an interested fan, such as myself, to host as a read-only mirror at my own expense, as a kindness to those who don't want to see what they've already submitted disappear?

3. Would you be open to selling the zoom.it domain so that I could host all content at its original URL so that embeds all over the web don't break when you cut the cord?

I'm very much aware that Zoom.it was an experiment and of your 'use at your own risk' type warnings over the years, but I'm (very) tired of Microsoft's repeating pattern of:
a) sell users on an idea
b) get them to invest their time and effort in it
c) allow it to fall into disrepair
d) delete all traces of it, breaking other people's efforts.

For once, allow someone who cares about the product/service to at least preserve the content that people submitted so that it doesn't disappear entirely.

I understand that business is business and if something isn't making money then things need to change (which can include discontinuing current/previous efforts).

I also want to thank whoever was responsible for allowing zoom.it to stay online as long as it has.

Hoping to hear back from you A.S.A.P.
Nate
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Cedric

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Hi Nate,

I agree with you, we could do something like that. All my website is around the Zoom.it Technology. Bravo Nate! I am photograph amateur and also use woom.it as private.

Zoom.it is the best technology in my knowledge, and I tried a lot, free or not free. They all have a flaw.

I use Microsoft ice to stich my pics also to Create super HD pics.
Can you contact me on my email :

ccmobile at live dot ca

Nate, maybe we could discussed about that on Skype?

Thank you so much
Cedric
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As far as I know, the best possibility for a zoom.it replacement is ZoomHub:

https://github.com/zoomhub/zoomhub

It already works, but it's very rough and not terribly user-friendly yet. If there's enough interest, though, hopefully the community can help make it shipshape.
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HI Ian,

thank you so much for your proposition.
What do we need to start now ?

I have a shared server , and a dedicated server.

Can you help me to install it ?

I run a magento plateform.

http://tinyurl.com/l4bagzq

please please please, HElp!
contact me on my website, with your skype

thank you
Cedric
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ZoomHub is currently up and running. Here's some info on using it:

https://github.com/zoomhub/zoomhub/is...

We don't know what the future holds for it, though, so you can also run it on your own server for maximum control. See the README for more info on getting it set up:

https://github.com/zoomhub/zoomhub/bl...

Please file issues on that project if you have trouble!
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Cedric

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HI guys,

This is it! Zoom.it closed the service tonight. Don t know what to say. Very sad!
That was the best tool ever made for enhanced experience for viewing all kind of very high resolution picture.

:( :( :(
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Considering that the so called "alternatives" either don't work (Deep Zoom Composer, embedding HD View images) or require developer skills I am really, really, really disappointed by Microsoft's decision to abandon Zoom.it.
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I'm sad to see it go as well, but happy that it found people who could appreciate it!

I was part of the team that put it together in the first place (I've since left Microsoft), and at the time, we knew there was a good chance it wouldn't last, but we felt it was still worth it to give it a go. Better that it existed at all.

Hopefully in its wake there will be new services that take up where it left off.
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Hi,

Based on the feedback from all of you, we’ve been working hard to find a solution that would enable the smooth transition of the zoom.it service to a new home. As of right now, I have no specific information to share, nor do I have a specific timetable. If it looks like we can pull together a viable plan, we’ll also consider extending the termination date to minimize service disruption.

I don’t want to set any false expectations. Nothing is defined at this time. I’ll provide additional details as soon as there is something more specific to talk about. In the meantime, your feedback has been heard and there are a bunch of folks working behind the scenes to see if we can find a viable option.

Bill Crow
(former) Seadragon Group Manager
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I'm just an end-user that supplies content to a freebie high-school alumni website. Unfortunately I have no software developer skills nor any server assets to offer up. I've greatly appreciated the freebie service Microsoft provided in supporting the 4 over-sized aerial photos that our website accessed thru Zoom.It. I hope something can be worked out between Bill and Ian to continue the service & hopefully at the same cost. Did I mention our website is a freebie and there's that damn Obamacare I have to pay for. Maybe if some of the other users would chime in and encourage the guys the service can be saved.

- Nat Martino
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Hi folks,

I'm also one of the original team members behind Zoom.it, alongside Ian and Bill. I agree with everything they've said above:

- Thank you for your praise and feedback.

- Major thanks to Bill for keeping it running this long. He is most definitely the messenger here; don't shoot him! =)

- We are actively investigating options.

Make no mistake that Zoom.it has been *entirely* a labor of love for several years now, from people like Bill to others not even on this thread. Everyone is working hard behind the scenes to see what we can do, but all that effort is entirely individual and personal. It's not any of our jobs.

To that end, one very real issue that may make or break certain options is now going to be the financial cost of maintaining the service. If you're able to help out financially, especially if you depend on Zoom.it for your business, please reach out and let me know: .

As Ian has alluded to w/ the link to ZoomHub, we're big believers in community-driven projects and want to keep it this way. If Zoom.it really is valuable to the community, hopefully the community can step up and help us maintain it. =)

Thank you all again!

Aseem
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Oh, it looks like my email address got stripped. aseem dot kishore at gmail dot com.
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Aseem Kishore, Former Employee

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Good news everyone — thanks to great, hard work by several people, mountains have been moved, and Zoom.it will live on!

More precisely, the zoom.it domain and service will transition to be served by our new open-source project, ZoomHub!

We'll make the official switchover tomorrow, but here's a sneak peek in the meantime:

http://zoomhub.net/
http://zoomhub.net/4rcn

As the homepage says, we won't be accepting any new images through the transition, but all existing images and embeds should continue to work.

We'll post here once the transition happens, but let us know if you have any questions, concerns, or suggestions. The best way to do that is via our new Google Group / mailing list:

https://groups.google.com/group/zoomhub

Thank you to Bill, Ian, Daniel Gasienica, Melinda Minch, Ken Perkins, and David Vos for making this happen! Also special thanks to Ken's employer, Rackspace, for sponsoring our hosting.

We're excited that Zoom.it will get to live on, and hope you are too.
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you guys are absolutely the best!
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Bill Crow, Seadragon Group Manager

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I'm so excited to see Aseem, Daniel and the open source community taking over the zoom.it domain and keeping the service alive. I'm proud of all these former Live Labs team members; this really embraces the passion and energy that I loved so much at Live Labs. Congrats!
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Aseem Kishore, Former Employee

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Thanks Bill! We couldn't have done it without your help, so thank you too!
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Daniel Gasienica

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Dear Bill, thanks for your and David’s dedication in the past few years and for your support helping us make the switch. Onwards and upwards! :)
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And... we're live!

http://zoom.it/
http://zoom.it/4rcn

Thanks again everyone. Enjoy. =)
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I am excited - I had lots of pics on there - and while some are available now, others just show 'queued' at the moment - so I am just waiting it out. Looking forward with anticipation - you guys are awesome! I already wanted to delete the codes when I stumbled upon the news!
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Excellent! We'll be working on getting the remaining images working again, but it may take some time; we appreciate your patience.
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I am running a artist network, and I do it for the love of it also, but love does not pay bills. I am wondering if you would have a donation link (I do for my network), or charge a sort of membership fee once you are fully operational. I would certainly like to contribute in one form or another.
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Thanks Otto! That's awesome and kind of you.

We were fortunate to have Rackspace, a cloud hosting company where Ken Perkins works, sponsor our hosting, which is all the financial cost. But yes, working on this project is still a significant time investment on all our parts.

So having a way for people to express their appreciation and contribute financially would be a great idea. We'll look into adding that:

https://github.com/zoomhub/zoomhub/is...

Thanks!
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Hi Guys,

thank you for your Help. Thank you to Rackspace also.
One question : How long you thing it will take to restore the links from Zoom.it on the existing pictures?
My business depend on it?

thank you
cedric
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I too, have the same question, How long you thing it will take to restore the links from Zoom.it on the existing pictures? My business depend on it?
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Hi,

None of the Deep Zoom tile sets were transferred to the new zoom.it service based on the open source ZoomHub implementation. From the beginning, the Live Labs version of zoom.it was always designed to be an intermediate image cache for high performance image viewing, not an image repository. The service keeps the original URL for the source image, and is designed to rebuild the Deep Zoom tile set on demand if/when required. Zoom.it never saves a copy of the original image.

What we transferred to the new zoom.it service was the list of image ID's and original source URL's. The new ZoomHub-based service will recreate the tile set (in their zoomable image format) using the URL for the original source image. This is done on demand, the first time the image is accessed.

However, if the original source image can no longer be accessed at the URL that was used when it was originally created, there's no way to create the new tile set.

So, if existing images are not displaying, it's most likely because your original source image can't be found at the original URL. By restoring the source image to it's original location, the new zoom.it should be able to rebuild the tile set the next time the image is accessed.

This is my understanding of how the new zoom.it is designed to work. I'll leave it to Aseem, Daniel or others working on that service to confirm.

To insure you're getting the best answers to these questions, I encourage you to be asking these questions at the new support sites linked at zoom.it. Now that the Microsoft version of zoom.it has shut down, we'll be shutting down support here on GetSatisfaction.

Thanks,

Bill
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Cedric

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Hi Bill,

yes I understand, this is not for hosting. But all my pictures are still a the same places, hosted. But when I put the Zoom.it short URL on zoomhub.net
like this one for example :
http://www.zoomhub.net/PyN6

I get the message queued...

I verified a few, they are all like that.

any idea ? is it normal?

thank you
Cedric
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Bill Crow, Seadragon Group Manager

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Since I am not involved with the new zoom.it, I can't answer that. You should post your questions over on their support/discussion forum so they are sure to see it.

Bill
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Cedric,

Thanks for reaching out. We migrated all the metadata to the new system but we only migrated the image data for the most popular images so far. Since we currently don’t support submitting new images, ones that haven’t been migrated will need to wait until we have that functionality as well.

Daniel
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Cedric

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Hi Daniel

Thank you for your help/answer. But are we talking about few days with few days late ...:)
or are we talking about weeks with few months late?

All my pictures are related to silk scarves and are hosted in smugmug.

thank you
Cedric
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Cedric

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Hi again,

I am ok, to help a little bit with contribution as well.

Thank you
Cedric
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If you're interested in knowing when your "queued" images will show up, you can follow this issue:

https://github.com/zoomhub/zoomhub/is...

For updates on being able to donate to the project (thank you!), you can follow:

https://github.com/zoomhub/zoomhub/is...

Thank you for your patience during this transition!