Altitude Profile

I'm using Locus Pro on bike tours for navigation. In this case it would be awesome to have an altitude profile as additional information for the prepared track.

Maddel

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Posted 3 years ago

3 years ago

tommi, Champion

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Since Locus Pro 2.0.2 (the newest version on Google Play Store aka Android Market) there is some SRTM support.
You can add altitude data to tracks by "+ Fill altitude"/"+ Höhe eintragen" in the list of actions after tapping on a track.
However this SRTM data needs to be downloaded if you use this for the first time on a certain combination of latitude/longitude which is triggered after you tap on "+ Fill altitude".
As a reference you can have a look at
https://getsatisfaction.com/locus/top...

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3 years ago

Maddel

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Well, I missed that thread but that's not quite the same what I'm looking for.
I edit my tracks online at my PC with http://www.gpsies.com/ and http://www.naviki.org and then I load them into locus. The altitudes are already included in the XML file.

When riding on a bike I would like to see not only my location in the guide but also the next ascents and descents. A small additional diagram with a moving cursor would be the best solution.

Mat

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3 years ago

druki

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Or altitude lines in map view (like Topo maps)? I started an Idea for this...

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3 years ago

Maddel

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ok, but I think that a simple graph is more visible when the phone is mounted on the handlebars while riding. Here a mockup of my idea

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3 years ago

Starman

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Your idea is very similar to the latest airliner navigation displays which show a plot of terrain along your intended route-

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3 years ago

Maddel

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Nice! The principle is the same. Only the use case differs a little (air craft vs. bicycle). Where can I find this app?

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3 years ago

BKone

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Oh, this would be very nice! So one can see the altitude on the way ahead. Perfect for bikers. Do it!

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3 years ago

Rob

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another type of integrated view could look like this:

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2012-03-20T08:51:38+00:00

Menion, Official Rep

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thanks Rob, if you don't mind, I'll delete "duplicate" topic

2012-03-20T08:53:03+00:00

Rob

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yes pls...

3 years ago

Starman

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No matter where you place the altitude profile, it is going to obscure part of the map. In aircraft navigation displays, the profile is placed at the bottom, with the logic that you are usually not as concerned with what is behind you, as you are with what is ahead of you.

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3 years ago

Rob

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for trekking and biking I assume that it's good to know if you already have past the top or if you should save some power for the coming peak :-)

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2012-03-20T20:04:34+00:00

Starman

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Yes, you should always save enough energy to open the door to the pub! Would the graph cursor be dynamic, and follow your position, or would you have to tap on the graph. Seems dynamic would be more technoerotic.

2012-03-20T20:22:21+00:00

Rob

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"technoerotic" lol !! great word...
of course dynamic :-) would be the cherry on the cake...

2012-03-20T21:04:04+00:00

Rob

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rethought this issue: both ways should be possible: for planned routes a tap on track or chart should be indicated, for guiding a dynamic view.
Sounds challenging for programming.... poor menion ;-)

2012-03-21T04:33:45+00:00

Starman

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"poor menion"??
Yes, I used to also feel sorry for "poor menion".
I even gave him last weekend off.
But then tommi62 mentioned that menion is married to beautiful Hana.
Now I do not feel quite so sorry for "poor menion".

2012-03-21T04:54:46+00:00

Menion, Official Rep

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you're funny guys :)

3 years ago

Jarda Kvapil

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It is good idea. Please support custom screen too :)

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3 years ago

joeloc, Champion

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an enhanced altitude profile display would not only include my current position but also mark all visible waypoints. implementation should be straight forward, since locus obviously knows the coordinates for each point in a profile. it could search through the currently enabled waypoints and write them into the profile when they are "close".

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3 years ago

gynta, Champion

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sorry - no news yet.
only a refresh for this idea :)

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2 years ago

Hans Dampf

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2 years ago

simonp

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Current fill altitude only adds altitude data at track points so get very sparse altitude data in chart view if planning and creating tracks rather importing from GPS. Would be good to have chart view and altitude data based on up sampling the number of track points if sparse/far apart either to a fixed minimum number of points or a fixes inter point distance.

Alternatively add the ability to create a copy of a track with adjustable point up sampling and we can then use the existing chart on this track.

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2 years ago

mrthom1

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Is it possible to view a chart of the real time altitude and speed information as we are recording a track? I do not mean viewing the information of a prerecorded track or navigation route. The "MyTracks" custom screen seems to have all the information,real time that is being recorded, as is shown in the Data>Tracks>Information page for a recorded track except for the Chart page. Either something as shown by Maddel on the Map screen or a separate page as on the GPS and Compass pages.
Thanks

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2013-04-08T08:59:32+00:00

Menion, Official Rep

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hi, chart tab (in information page) display! current profile and all values. It's refreshed every time, new point is recorded so it's possible to view here real-time values. This isn't working for you?

2 years ago

Maddel

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What's about the original idea? It is 'under consideration' for a long time...
Next bicycle season starts soon and I'm waiting so eagerly!

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2 years ago

Menion, Official Rep

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this is something that I would like to create, I also see that quite a lot of people is interested in this, but it will also take quite a lot of time to create it fast and usable.

Currently, if you plan a track manually by "Add new route" function, you may also check current profile under tools button. Track profile itself is also available in information screen for every track. So it's already there, just not so simply visible ...

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2 years ago

John P.

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Menion
I'm not sure whether it's really part of the topic here, but I would appreciate a lot being able to enter the planned altitutde of a trackpoint manually for later guidance. I know, that it can be added automatically, but I use Locus for aviation and the ground level is usually not the one I need. BTW, I highly esteem your work!

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2 years ago

Karl

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Sure a nice feature for bike tours. An alternative, but definitely as difficult to implement like a profile view, could be a colouring of the rack shown in locus itself.
Lets say the track will be shown in red if that part is steep, orange for medium acclivity and green if its flat.

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2 years ago

LaCroix

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came here to request this very feature - altitude (elevation) is extremely important when planning a bike trip and i'm still quite amazed it's not conveniently available in Locus which is otherwise crammed with tons of features.

it is somewhat absurd that i find myself switching to google maps ever so often because of this. Many people don't know that, but you can enable the Measure tool in the Labs section of the settings, be sure to check it out. It draws a route and creates a nice profile with some simple stats.

frankly though, even though the profile graph is great, i'd be trigger happy even if Locus allowed me to just display elevation at each point of my planned route. i have the turned on the feature that displays elevation of the map center after some idle time, but that's very cumbersome.
i'd also happily trade the azimuth markings for an elevation-change reading in the add route graphic! now, wouldn't that be cool? see, my girlfriend always fusses about how much of a climb there will be ;).

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2 years ago

Menion, Official Rep

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@karl - this is already possible. You firstly need to "fill altitude" for specific track and then "edit" this track and in tab "apperance" change coloring to what you need (altitude in this case)

@LaCroix - this is also there. Did you tried function "Add new route & measure"? Try to add there for example three points and in bottom menu choose "tools > show chart"

what is missing is requested feature. So missing is visible chart directly over map. Currently I would like to add possibility to show chart integrated into dashboard, but it's it's matter of free time ....

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2 years ago

LaCroix

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@menion: yeah, i know it's there, but it's just too "far away" to really be convenient. i suggest you try the labs measure tool in android gmaps, you'll see what i mean.

but i understand it will take time. so how about a wee little switch somewhere in the settings called "Show elevation at route/measure points"? ;)
(and a humble subcheckbox "Also show elevation change instead of azimuth at route segments" ;).

anyways, keep up the great work, appreciated!

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2 years ago

LaCroix

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fwiw, here's the measure tool in gmaps. it's actually quite primitive compared to the possibilities that Locus could offer to go with it (like draggable points).

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2 years ago

Gaël Mauron

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Hi guys,

Is it possible to integrate the graph of the elevation profile into a dashboard (exactly like the picture above)? This in order to be able to see at the same time this graph and the map? Is there any other possible solution to do that?

Regards,

Gaël