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Firewire 410 works fine with Windows 10 64-bit!

I just dusted off my Firewire 410 to see if it would work with my HP Spectre XT Touchsmart (15-4011nr) laptop that has a Thunderbolt port running 64-bit Windows 10. Despite all the disappointing comments about compatibility, I had to try, otherwise the 410 would go to eBay for next to nothing.

Since my laptop doesn't have the old Firewire 400 port, I bought the Apple Thunderbolt to Firewire adapter and also a Firewire 800 to 400 cable.

Knowing that Windows 10 does NOT come with native IEEE1394 drivers, I downloaded and installed a Windows 1394 OHCI Legacy 64-bit Driver from:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/h...
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...

I installed the latest available M-Audio Firewire 410 driver and plugged everything in. Nothing. The Apple adapter only showed up as a PCI-PCI bridge in the device manager, not a Firewire device.

Turns out the issue is that Windows 10 blocks all non-certified devices from connecting to the Thunderbolt port, and both Apple adapter and Firewire 410 are not certified. If you're using an HP laptop, there is a configuration utility that fixes it:
https://support.hp.com/us-en/document...

Once I installed the HP utility and configured the Thunderbolt port to work with non-certified devices, the Firewire 410 was immediately recognized, all audio and midi in/out ports were mapped, and everything, including ASIO, functions just fine.

If you are using a different Firewire card with Windows 10, contact the manufacturer to see if there is a utility that changes the non-certified driver requirement.

I hope this will help someone out there some day.

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