Windows 8/8.1 drivers for the Delta Cards

Not if, but WHEN are M-Audio releasing Windows 8/8.1 drivers for the Delta cards?

Come on guys you are slow!
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  • It does not look like we have had official driver support for sometime. I unfortunately do not have a timeline for you.You can always check here for the latest driver/product updates here.

    http://community.m-audio.com/m-audio/...
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  • This is not what i want to read!

    Ive just got a new machine with 8.1. Im about to install my delta 1010. I thought i would start by installing poringinal software drivers. Switch mahcine. Put PCI card in. boot back up and hopefully it will work. Fialing that i would download latest driver, windows 7 64Bit SP1 from Maudio site. then hopefully that would work.

    Am i on the right track!?
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  • I just bought this: as I just got tired of waiting for driver support for my Delta 1010 as well.

    http://www.native-instruments.com/en/...

    To date I think it is a great piece of equipment, but it is now bricked without current drivers and I won't even be able to sell it second hand now.

    Dan Fitzgerald, Kanata ON Canada
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  • I’m frustrated
    Come on, M-Audio!! Is THIS really what you want to have OTHER customers read on your support page?

    WAKE UP! Try the espresso! If you all were TRYING to drive off your customers, you couldn't be more successful!
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  • It is a shame isn't it guys. To be honest though, most modern builds aren't offering suitable PCI slots for these type of interfaces, so in a an arguable defence of lacking driver development for Windows 8, it's likely the majority of Windows 8 builds aren't even going to run the Delta PCI cards on a hardware level.

    Now that is a bit hollow, I can agree. I've only just recently got around to moving to Windows 7 myself, and the driver seems rock solid for me so far. But I see no reason why my system wouldn't support Windows 8, and having no driver shouldn't be a reason not to migrate to the latest OS, I mean it has been a while that 8 has been out.

    Seems like everyone is ultra lazy these days. I'm trying to buy a freezer and it keeps disappearing from the shop site! I placed an order for a new kitchen work top and had a refund the next day due to it being discontinued. You wouldn't think there was a global recession on where people should be clambering over themselves to get to your wallet....hmm.

    But whatever the case, please don't take it out on the staff, they are trying to help, can probably share your frustration. But at the end of the day their hands are tied.
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  • 2
    Not true. There are PLENTY of current motherboards that have 2 PCI slots. PLENTY. As long as there are motherboards that use PCI, obviously Windows will and does support them. Windows 8 and 8.1 support PCI just fine. I see nothing that indicates that any motherboard manufacturer plans to dump PCI totally. If and when that happens, obviously PCI devices will become a thing of the past. But not now.

    Here's a list of 32 currently sold MBs that have two PCI slots:

    http://www.microcenter.com/search/sea...

    NO ONE is taking it out on the staff. If they are frustrated THEY need to do something about it. THEY took the CSR job. No one forced them. It's not the fault of customers that this company has insufficient sense to act differently.

    Here's my solution: jodonnell@inmusicbrands.com

    That's Jack O'Donnell's email address - president of the company. Spread it around. Write him. Complain.
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  • John, yeah I agree that a customer shouldn't have to bear the brunt of an unworkable situation - it's yours and my money that has been invested why should we be without? We shouldn't, you are correct.
    I was making a general statement regarding people's behaviour to the staff. I have witnessed it get a bit nasty. I wasn't being accusation :)

    Regards PCI. If you look at those a little more closely, you may find out that 99.9% are actually not natively supporting PCI, despite 1,2 or even 3 sockets. These are 'bridged' and as such may be very problematic for these old PCI sound devices. PCI-e is the only real internal sound option for a new builds. You may get away with the bridging but it's normally implemented badly, and once you start to use say a USB port or a Firewire port, you realise the system resources have dried up fro your sound device - not a good situation to be in when trying to get anything done.
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  • I’m slighlty disconcerted
    I've tried the W7 (non SP1 drivers) and they are a HUGE improvement, as I was using ASIO4ALL B4, laughable as that is, they were much better than the drivers off of the M audio site..

    I wont be buying sound cards of any kind off these guys again in a hurry, but I will say, you'll have to kill me before you take my Axiom off me....

    W8.1 x64
    Ableton 9 x32
    Delta 44 (previously had a lot of love for the 24/96 Audiophile cards) shame really, Though I reckon much of this comes down to Microsoft too...
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  • I'm not sure where the problem resides; could be M$ demanding money for their "officially Signed Driver" program, of which M-Audio refuse to pay the fee. I would have to chalk that down to 'the cost of doing business' though, but regardless of where the blame lies, it is us - the paying customers (again - sigh) that bear the full brunt of their hostility.

    They know who we are, the hardware has serial numbers and we're all registered. For god's sake send us each an email - they have that information already. I wouldn't complain about a service charge of $4.95 - $7.95 for the drivers if they would just provide them. It is their deafening silence on this topic that I find really, really irksome.

    My guess is that the people who wrote the original driver code are no longer with the company (another reason to say good bye to this firm since it would appear they harbor the same mendacity towards their own as well). Driver code is pretty complex; not something you learn in 6 months or a year; it is a career in itself.

    In any event, perhaps someone can post a video on YouTube highlighting this issue, and this companies disdain for its customer base.
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  • I’m frustrated
    Daniel, I totally agree. I'd pay for updated drivers. Complex or not, this shouldn't be rocket science. They have to have the source code. Given the fact that some Delta users are having success with the Win 7 drivers on Win 8/8.1, bringing them to full compliance with Win 8 can't be that difficult.

    No response is unacceptable. That appears to be the mode of operation for the new M-Audio. I just bought new reference monitors and totally avoided M-Audio because of the very poor manner with which they've dealt with driver issues - not only for Win 8, but also for OSX Mavericks. Just look at the download page. There have been a handful of updates.

    Not good.
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  • Whats going on with this guys? PCI slots are still available on the current crop of PC's. Infact I bought a PCI compliant gaming motherboard specifically so I could continue support for my excellent Delta 66 card. Now with no windows 8.1 drivers this was wasted additional money. Put some resources into supporting your customer base or I will be looking elsewhere for my next soundcard
    • I'll have to point out that although there are still legacy PCI slots on new motherboard (for example Intel socket 1150), these are bridged and have been cause for a lot of audio card related problems.

      A Delta series PCIe card with Windows 8 drivers - now there's a thing we could all do with!
    • WOW, is it true that PCI implementation is so poorly executed in Z97
      boards, at least in part, due to a “bridged” or “shared” data or system resources between PCI and PCIe slots? If so, then I presume that this
      board http://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z... has a
      “bridged” PCI slot like this one does
      http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/0...

      Does that mean that rather than a separate hard-wired connection, some kind of chip is used between the PCI and PCI-e slots to share data and resources between them?

      Apparently, it’s this sharing that jeopardizes audio signal quality, at least
      for PCI sound cards (?)

      So I see why 16bit here and someone just yesterday at Gear Slutz suggests choosing a CPU using a board with a 2011 socket instead, which unlike 1150 boards do not have bridged PCI slots.

      I’ve decided against building an all-in-one dual bootable Windows 7 and Windows XP on separate SSDs (XP required for M-Powered PT 7.4.2)
      ATX desktop (for 1080p video encoding and HD audio editing and serving).

      Instead, I’m going with an audio only (and Windows XP only) micro-ATX pc. What audiophile could forget the cardinal rule that “separates” are always better? Since audio signal quality is top priority, I’d choose a 2011 socket, low power CPU equivalent to one like the Haswell 4790T or 4785T (45 and 35w TPD). Going this route might insure that my audio won’t get contaminated
      with higher amplitude RF and/or EMI radiation from a more powerful CPU, video card GPU and/or the bigger power supply to run them. And since I’ll being playing no games or movies on this pc, only a lean, low power (nVidia) video card would be needed. A Samsung 840 EVO SSD for the system drive and a CD ROM drive for CD ripping.

      However, looking for boards with the 2011 socket at the ASUS site, found next to no ATX boards and only one micro-ATX board, and that one has no PCI slot.

      BUT wait! If I did choose a micro-ATX board with an 1150 socket, since I’m doing zero video intensive stuff on this dedicated audio pc, I wouldn’t need a video card if I use the Haswell CPU’s on-chip graphics. So with no (PCIe) video card, my M-Audio PCI card won’t have to “compete” with any PCIe card’s data and no related latency or noise issues should arise. Yes?

      On the other hand, it’s quite possible that I will eventually want to add
      just one PCIe card: A USB card to feed my external DAC like this one http://jplay.eu/jcat/ -and powered by an external linear supply. So if both my M-Audio card’s SPDIF output and this card’s USB port were outputting data simultaneously that just might cause a sonic mess. BUT unlike a PCIe video card-which would be constantly on line-I’d only be outputting data to my DAC from one of these two digital sources at a time. Moreover, since the USB card
      is externally powered, I could cut it out of circuit by simply shutting off its external power supply.

      But is THAT why ASUS Tech Support said that though the Z97-M Plus board has a standard sized PCI slot to accept my M-Audio card, the card must be able to work in “X-4” mode?

      Did he mean that when sharing data path lanes (?) with the video card
      it would need to have 4 times the throughput as an ancient PCI 1X card?

      However, it says on the M-Audio card’s box “Delta cards have been re-designed to be PCI 2.2 compliant, with support for 3.3v and 5v PCI
      signaling environments. This guarantees compatibility with PCI-X, 64-bit
      and standard 32-bit based systems, including Apple G5”.

      How does PCI 2.2 relate to “X4” mode?

      In any case, again, I can externally power off that USB card,
      giving the M-Audio card full data lane access (?).

      Therefore, would this scheme obviate the need to go with a 2011 socket motherboard to gain an unbridged PCI slot for best performance from my M-Audio 2496 card’s SPDIF output?
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  • I've been using my Delta audiophile 2496 quite happily in an xp machine. Upgrading to quad core and windows 8 machine I was disappointed to find there were NO PCI slots on the motherboard. I have seen PCI to PCIex1 adapters on Ebay but I'm not sure if that will work - anyone know about this? Obviously I'm going to have to do some adaptation to the casing also as all the slots at the back line up with incompatible PCIex1 slots but that wont bother me if I can get the adapter to work - I'll find a way around the hardware.
    Anyone have any success with these adapters?
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  • Has any of you tried this driver:

    Driver Version: 5.10.0.5078
    Release Date: 2011-12-21
    File Size: 109.22K
    Supported OS: Windows XP 64bit, Windows Vista 64bit, Windows 7 64bit, Windows 8 64bit

    Or this:

    Description: M-Audio Delta 66 Driver Installer
    File Version: 8.3.5
    File Size: 2.28M
    Supported OS: Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8

    Both from: http://www.driverscape.com/download/m...
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  • I’m frustrated
    I need to my post replied to ASAP by those much more knowledgeable than I so that I can move forward with my next pc build that fully supports the Audiophile 2496 card. But as users here will attest, motherboards newer than the 2011 socket (the 1150) use a "bridge" where the PCI card must share lanes and/or resources with the PCIe slot(s) when communicating with the CPU and/or the PCH. That seems to cause errors and/or noise issues for the PCI card. Again, I am way behind schedule to do my next pc build-all because I need the M-Audio card to run Pro Tools 7.4. And I do NOT want to spend >$300. on Pro
    Tools 10, just to be free of the M-Audio card. Please read and reply to my post-IF you can truly advise me on hardware. Btw, doesn't this forum allow private messages between members?
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  • Now using vers 6.08 buffer set at 256 "functions ok" latency is tolerable, no audible pops or clicks for over a year now.. 64bit OS W8.1/ Ableton Live 9 mostly, Q6600/gigabyte MBD with only 4gb ram, so it's not exactly a power system... I have had the issue where the mixer panel just goes blank and I get no sound at all, and I have to reinstall the drivers happen twice in that time, and occasionally when I switch I/O's routing within Traktor Pro2 etc. so yes it's not perfect but it seems to mostly work for me. However I spent a day by trial and error to get it remotely usable and as It doesn't look like official drivers are coming at all, let alone soon, I'm stuck with this or ASIO4ALL, and that had terrible latency for me..
    For sure, I'll be thinking long and hard about what I do on my next build, and it's unlikely to include M-Audio/AVID
    Good luck
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  • Brows!!
    I solved my problem here, downgrading my delta 66 driver to this version

    http://m-audio.com/support/download/d...

    I was afraid it would be another waste of time... But It's sounding ok now..
    no crakles or any noise.

    I hope one day M-audio update to a proper version for windows 8 It's a shame , they also have options to search for the 8.1 driver on their section, but when you hit search, it says they don't have the driver ...

    a lost hope...

    But.. I'm working with it untill I have money to buy a new audio processor.
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  • I’m sad
    It's hard to say, but the solution failed..
    It started to sound crackles and some distorced when I use hard VST plugings, Like Guitar Rig and Kontakt
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  • I’m completely frustrated
    Delta series aren't even listed any more! WTF?!?!? I bought a 66 with Omni I/O and then built a very nice Windows 8.1 machine..... And now they won't provide driver support? COME ON, AT LEAST FOLLOW THROUGH FOR 8.1, JUST ONE MORE DRIVER PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you don't provide one, that means you basically robbed me of a pretty large chunk of change for nothing. I guarantee, I will not (because I know I don't need to) entertain another purchase from you again! AND, I will surely spread the word of my misfortunes dealing with M-Audio! Step up to the plate and throw otherwise loyal M-Audio patrons a bone!
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  • I’m frustrated
    WTF indeed. What a joke. I have been waiting for drivers and following the forums for well over two years. I don't even know why I am so surprised; not only are there no updates, but M-Audio threw the 44, 66, and 1010 away and they're not even offering the drivers at all anymore. It is a huge joke. I'm going to spend a good while letting people know how you have been bought and sold. I'm very upset.

    I have two 1010lts and would love to AT LEAST be able to download some form of official drivers. There's other stuff on the menu; there are Legacy products featured on the drivers page, even some Delta stuff.. but it is an insult to pull access to these drivers completely. Shame on you, MAudio.
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  • This reply was removed on 2015-01-01.
    see the change log
  • I’m indifferent
    So, actually, I found out that by navigating to the drivers for the Audiophile 192, drivers for the 44, 66 and 1010 can be found.

    http://www.m-audio.com/support/downlo...

    .. But still. That's confusing as all hell. I hope they don't remove them now that I've discovered their drivers...

    Win7 drivers work well for me in Win7 64bit, but ya gotta use them in older Intel motherboards (1366 or 775) or AMD. .. I think there are issues with PCI to PCIe bridges found in newer mobos, as well as problems with the sandy bridge chpset.

    Also, I was having 1010lt problems with pops and clicks during ASIO monitoring in Sonar 6, as well as blips and noise that actually got recorded on a ga-g31m-es2l. I swapped the motherboard out for a g41m-es2l and I'm doing fine fine fine now. I really REALLY wish I could use them with Win8/8.1 though. If you found the secret combo PLEASE tell me. Also, I am running two cards, so it has to be cool with that. .. And not shut down on me. I am going to see if I can get this motherboard to install 8.1 and Windows10's development sneak peek and do some more testing, probably in vein. I will let yall know what's up with that.
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  • they just removed all drivers of Delta seires =(

    I'm out of this forever!"

    I bought a U-phoria UMC204 working very better than M-audio!

    I'll not back to M-audio anymore!!
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  • Hey,

    You are probably still looking for Windows 8.1 drivers if you hit this page. In my case, I could not find them but worked out the following solution:

    1. Download the Delta drivers for Windows 7 SP1 from this link: http://www.m-audio.ca/support/downloa... ;
    2. Unzip the contents of the zip file to your Downloads folder;
    3. Right-click on the Delta_6_0_8 executable, select "Properties" and go to the "Compatibility" tab;
    4. Select the option to run in Compatibility Mode for Windows 7;
    5. Run the executable and install the drivers. You may verify that they installed properly by looking at your sound card devices in the device manager.

    Essentially, this tricks the driver installation software into thinking that your computer is running on Windows 7. This should not cause any problem as I doubt that the driver structure would change heavily from Windows 7 to Windows 8.1. In my case, everything runs smoothly and quickly!

    Good luck!
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  • The larger issue is ongoing support - which won't happen. M-Audio has been deaf, dumb and blind on this issue. They refuse to say whether or not they will provide driver support for the Delta series even though most of us can see that the Delta series won't get any further support. They also will not release the code because it contains "proprietary data" even though they've given up on the Delta line.

    I've given up on M-Audio. I own 2 Delta 1010's. They work acceptably on Win 8.1 for me. However, at some point soon, they won't and it's impossible to tell when that will happen. With the arrival next month of Windows 10, it's only a matter of time for this hardware to stop working.

    I'm now shopping for alternatives. None of them will have the M-Audio label. I will never buy another M-Audio product due to their tone deaf response to this issue. And I've been an M-Audio (and Midiman) buyer for two decades.
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    The Windows 7 SP1 64-bit driver is still available. It's under Legacy devices.

    I have the 2496 and I've been running the 6.0.8 driver since upgrading to Windows 8 on day one and later 8.1 with no issues. I have a MB with socket 1155 that support 3:d gen Intel CPU's so I'm pretty future proof hardware wise. But to me PCI is the only alternative despite USB 2.0 now being the "norm". You can't get nearly the same latencies through USB 2.0 unless you pay big bucks OR want to push your CPU to the extreme. It's remarkable no manufacturer has made a USB 3 DAC yet. I am convinced you could create a budget external DAC with the same latency as a PCI card if it's USB 3.

    Has anyone tried running the 6.0.8 driver on the windows 10 Insider preview? Unfortunately I'm too dependent on a stable system so I only run the preview in a virtual machine to evaluate what software work or not. True ASIO support is not possible in VM's unfortunately.
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    • No problem at all running the Delta 6.0.8 driver with Windows 10 and the system specified above. All other driver issues, i.e. - USB drivers have been resolved by Roland and Boss.
    • What about on Asus mobo running AMD CPU? My old Echo system was documented to NOT WORK on an AMD platform. Will these Deltas work on the AMD platform?
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  • Audiophile 192 driver for Win 10, enyone? (AP192K)
    Is Delta 6.0.8 driver okej. I'm not so sure..
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  • I tested 2 synced 1010lt cards with sonar x3 on Windows 10 x64 using 6.0.8 for a day and it seems to work... This motherboard (XFX MBX58ICH19) has a cap in the way next to the top PCI slot so I can't actually install 2 cards. Luckily, I have a couple extension ribbons. Unfortunately, I didn't have the patience or space to test the actual inputs, since they were set up precariously on a box next to the computer. .. however, I recorded 8 tracks (first four of each card) for around 10 min throughout the day, stopping and starting, saving and restarting the program, sometimes doing a system restart, and sometimes leaving it running for an hour or so, granted the cats were sleeping and I could walk away without worry. I did this all day and didn't get a single blue screen.

    I also tested them on a separate system that I quickly built in a drawer, a mini ITX with a dual PCI to single PCIe x1 bridge, which is connected via a usb 3.0 cable. (google dual pci to pcie). I also used a usb adapter that I got to save more vertical space in the thing I was building. I found that when using the adapter, the computer will freeze, and it seems to work when not used. This made my tests super confusing over a year ago with Win 8 and 8.1, because it would either always work, (one card) or it would freeze, or it would blue-screen. So I've nailed some stuff down kinda, I will be doing some more tests when I can find a better testing environment. Hope this all helps! Oh also, I installed the 6.0.8 driver as admin, using win 7 compatibility mode. : )
    • Main point here is that TWO work.. also, they were NOT synced.
    • Never mind. I can't get consistent working ASIO monitoring on anything but XP (which I have not tested yet). .. actually, it's not just monitoring; I discovered this after recording an entire take and listening back to robotic sounding garbage. I should have had a monitor before but didn't have the capabilities to test anything but the bluescreen issue. I tried all the drivers, and using SONAR X3 (Sonar 6 gave me the same problems on Windows 7 a couple years ago with just one card) I monitored a feed of music from another computer. I found that the distortion happened less AND less often with a certain older driver, but didn't take note of which one that was. It also happened with just one card. I basically just clicked the monitor button in Sonar off and on while playing music through the channel, and about once out of 30 times (it seems to vary with different drivers) it monitored distorted, which I can only assume would also record like that. So I am about to install XP on my tester and we will see what happens. I hope that the two cards I own still have some value to the individual who doesn't need much more than a dedicated XP workstation without the protection and support that Microsoft once provided. I have never done any testing with a Mac or software aside from the two I mentioned above, which is not available on Mac. Oh well. I got a good deal on an RME HDSP 9652 and it's the best card I have ever owned, although the DSP is a bit less straight forward than other cards I've tested, including the 1010lt. I also really liked the MOTU 2408 with the PCI-e card. I got the RME for under 200 dollars. I can turn on my optical preamp (ART tube opto8) while in Sonar and after about 6 seconds it just works.. no clicks or pops (or complete lack of signal) often associated with similar ADAT initiation. For your health. -Mike
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  • I really think that owners of M-Powered Pro Tools should finally be given the right to run it with the interface of their own choosing-particularly if they have proof of purchase of M-Audio hardware. In other words, I, for one, have PAID MY DUES to Avid, M-Audio, Inbrands, et al. Why shouldn't I now be free to output my digital audio via USB to any DAC of my choice? Why should I have to route my data through my Delta 2496 card when i can send directly to my ExaSound DAC, with less risk of any interference, noise etc? The time has come for these firms to do the right thing by their licensed customers and issue software audio driver downloads for us to run M-Powered PT with any interface we please -same as users are allowed to do with Samplitude, Wavelab, Logic and other DAW platforms.
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  • 1010lt and XP sp3 are perfect. Tested with Sonar 4. I forget my whole config, but I think it was X86. No ASIO distortion and no blue screen. As I've said, I have moved on from the Delta, (RME rules, and so does multi-touch) but it is still a great card if you want to go with said OS. (latest drivers). Cheers. Over and out.
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  • Drivers get old within some time. So, you need to update them frequently. You can update all the drivers from only one software. It is the safest and best way to update drivers. Check it out at Drivers Update Software
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