Silverlight on mac install stall.

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I can't install Silverlight on my mac. The continue button is grayed out in the install dialog. I've downloaded both version 1 and the beta of 2 and both do the same thing. Running on an Intel mac with leopard.
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Big E

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Posted 11 years ago

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timheuer, Employee

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Hi Big E, I'd like to help. Can you tell me what type of Mac you have (PPC or Intel) and what site you are going to to install Silverlight?
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Big E

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It's an Intel running Leopard. I obtained both the version 1 and version 2 installs from the Silverlight.net site.
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Big E

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Thanks timheur for jumping on this. I solved the problem by using a typical Windows solution, I rebooted the machine. I don't know why that made a difference, but install runs now.
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timheuer, Employee

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The good ol' college reboot! I am not sure why that would make a difference either, but glad it is working...feel free to let me know if you have other problems.
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I don't want to install Silverlight on my Mac, and also the thought of installing .NET on my Mac so Microsoft can (attempt) to own it makes me feel like I would after eating rancid meat.

I'm wondering how much Microsoft had to pay certain companies, e.g Ryanair (but they'll do anything for money), who are now forcing website visitors to install Silverlight to view multimedia content, to go over to the dark side. Naturally - as per the Microsoft way - those websites don't offer people a choice of Silverlight or Flash but only Silverlight - thereby also cutting out a large portion of web users.

Sorry guys, but I don't like Microsoft's way of making new 'standards'.
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timheuer, Employee

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LeaveTheDarkSide: Nobody's forcing you to install anything. If the content is absolutely enticing to a user, they'll install what they have to to view it. If it isn't enticing enough for some users to install something (like yourself), they won't. That's what is great about choice. I hate what Quicktime does to my computer and thus I don't have it. Whenever I view a site with Quicktime content, I don't view it...and that's my choice.

Site owners will choose the best tool for the job, whether that is better for them in development time, total cost of ownership (as is the case with most multimedia customers), or features.

Microsoft isn't implying that Silverlight is a new standard...just providing options.
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LeaveTheDarkSide

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Dear Tim

I understand you work for Microsoft and have to follow the company line....

Fortunately, however, I don't, and therefore don't have to.

Unfortunately it's the limitation of choice which is the result of Silverlight, and no doubt Microsoft's intention to 'entice' website operators to limit user's choice to Silverlight to get it pushed onto everyone's machine and thereby become a new (controlled by Microsoft i.e. monopoly) 'standard'. Unfortunately for users, as is typical where Microsoft is involved, it will not be an open standard.

Regarding the Ryanair site, I can't see where a page which simply shows the destinations they fly to (http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/dests....) as being something which is mega "rich content" and enticing. I just want to know where the heck they fly to - something their previous ?Flash? graphic showed quite well. If they are wanting to reach the broadest audience then obviously they should choose the broadest supported platform - and that ain't Silverlight. So one wonders what 'enticed' them to change? Hmmm.... fuel prices go up, Ryanair profits go down, Company X offers them 'compensation' to use a new limiting technology on their website, bottom line goes up!



And Silverlight is limiting:

http://shebanation.com/2007/05/07/sil...
http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/0...

and I don't work for Adobe either. Any company (Adobe) who can have the gall to sell Photoshop to Americans for ~700 USD and Europeans for ~1,700 USD (check it out yourself) is pretty bad.
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Dark: It won't be for everyone. And as I mentioned I think that some people make decisions based on factors other than "it looks the same" -- if you have a suite of .NET developers do you want to put them to use (Silverlight) or hire/outsource (Flash) -- to some companies this will appeal to them even if their implementation (map) is the exact same visually as it increases their overall productivity and may reduce costs. I never saw the original Ryan air.com experience so I wouldn't know if there were any differences.

I don't follow the company line. I'm an individual. I work on Silverlight and do so for a reason. I think other parts of the company suck royally and voice my opinion within the company daily to those effects.

Regarding PPC support, yes that is one thing that sucks and I've pushed back as much as I could. The reality is that Apple themselves are discontinuing support for PPC as other most vendors for future versions of their software to concentrate on taking advantage of the newer architecture. Apple has provided information to vendors making those decisions to help them balance the cost-benefit of those decisions.

Regardless I respect your opinion and appreciate the feedback. Silverlight won't be for everyone. Flash isn't for everyone. Windows isn't for everyone. Linux isn't for everyone. etc., etc. It's why we drive different cars, carry different phones, watch different brands of TVs (LCD/DLP/Plasma/Tube), use different types of DVR (TiVo, cable box, Myth, eyeTV)...it's about choice...choice to the developers providing a product as much as choice to us as consumers whether to use it or not. Clearly you are choosing not to, and that's okay.
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Tim:

Thanks for honest reply. On the one hand I would be happy to see alternatives to established (and perhaps fossilised [?Flash?]) technologies, and if that new technology provides new functionality - great! I've got pretty well as much new technology as you can eat (and need to sell off the old stuff on eBay) and love it. On the other hand you will understand if I (who have been around for a while) remain a bit suspicious of the (deadly) 'embrace and extend' philosophy of your current employer.

Re: PPC - true Apple have moved on, but I just installed latest OS X 10.5.4 (Leopard) on a 5 year old iMac (not my machine - I have a Mac Pro ;-) ) and it hums. So there's life in the old PPC yet.
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Thank goodness small minded people like are few and far in between. I'm an A.C.E. in Ps yet I'm converting over to Expression Studio because of the remarkable value. Silverlight, just like Flash, is a Plug in. Yes, they're both plug ins and you have to install them to view the content.
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timheuer, Employee

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I think if anything else, competition breeds innovation...and *that* is exciting. We have seen it already in that Adobe is making big changes to their tools/platforms. Would they have if there was no competition?

Thanks for the feedback though, honestly...it helps keep me not-so-borg-like :-)

And I guess I'd just ask to give Silverlight a fair shake. It's a small plugin that doesn't run unless asked.
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roncioiu

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Strangely enough, I'm with Microsoft on this one, I don't like flash, but its ubiquity is hard to ignore. I actually welcome a bit of competition in this field. Perhaps we can finally get a plugin (unlike flash) that will not eat resources like crazy. I have been in the IT field for a loooong time, and it really seems that MS has indeed woken up and some of the products coming from them are great.