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What other formats are coming soon? And how soon?

At the end of the Quick Help feature in the Windows Mobile Tag Reader client I find the following text:

"This version of Mirosoft Tag Reader can read the following barcode formats: Microsoft Tag, More formats coming soon...."

What formats are you thinking about here? (Semacode? QR Code? Other?)
And when could/would "soon" be?
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  • I’m amused
    I would like to see QR as an alternative, but I want a working J2ME client for AT&T phones first!
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  • We’re always interested in your suggestions and feedback and you can be sure that the product team is listening. Please continue to send your questions and requests so that we can deliver the features and functionality that our customers want to see. And when we have news to share, know that we’ll get the word out to Tag enthusiasts.
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  • I’m waiting... ;-)
    This is just a boilerplate reaction. Is there any chance of actually answering the question?

    It's ok if the answer it "no additional formats are actually planned yet", "we are working on (#) format(s), but we cannot tell you what they are yet or when to expect them", or (preferably) "QR codes are expected from Q3 2009" or something specific like that, but preferably it actually is an answer to the question and not just a copy-paste answer.

    If you are not serious about user participation, then why have a presence on a site like GetSatisfaction?
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  • I’m frustrated and curious
    I agree with PeSHIr. If you are just posting boilerplate reactions, why even bother with GetSatisfaction, which is designed for actual engagement with your community. Not adhering to real engagement will just piss everyone off.

    I would be curious about QR tags. From my experience, these are the most popular, and there are many tag readers out there that read QR. Nobody wants to be required to have a slew of tag readers on their phones, so I suggest that MSFT add QR tags to the list of formats it can read.

    With QR tag support, many more people will download your app, and then will subsequently find out about the Microsoft Tag Service, which is where you plan to monetize this service anyway. It only makes sense. One tag reader for all existing tags.

    I hope I don't get a boilerplate response as to if/when this is planned.
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  • I’m waiting patiently
    If the MS team can get QR and DataMatrix working I would love them forever, especially since the iPhone lacks a decent reader for either of them. I'm certain people on other devices would love to have a single reader as well.
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  • I’m confident
    I also hope the Tag Reader will read QR-codes and Datamatrix so the general public doesn't have to know about the difference between QR-codes, Datamatrix and Microsoft Tag - it'll all just work.

    I've experienced QR-Codes and Microsoft Tag and the latter works better. The camera in my HTC phone can take a sharp picture of a QR-code but the i-nigma reader for my PDA does not "focus" the camera. You can set Microsoft Tag Reader to "use snap mode" which allows you to take a photo using the built in tools of the camera (flash, focus).

    But now comes the good part: Microsoft Tag doesn't need focus to read Microsoft Tags. Works great! I've also tested a QR-code with less information in it since Microsoft Tag only stores a webaddress and will fetch the rest of the information online but Microsoft Tag still performed better for me.

    But since there are a lot of QR-codes out there already I'd appreciate it if the general public does not have to look which kind of code they're looking at and then start an appropriate reader :-)

    Analytics (however basic) is included and can easily be improved. In addition to free text "notes" for a tag, allow an option to (free-form) label a tag with the publication mechanism "Magazine, Poster, Billboard, Newspaper or Website" and make reporting available for that. The "notes" can then be used to put a reminder for specifics like which magazine, poster, billboard, whitepaper or whatever the code was used for.
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  • quickmark ( qr-code and datamatrix ) has taking a sharp picture and auto focus mode for HTC phone.
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  • I’m undecided
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    How does that help Microsoft Tag Reader exactly?

    I'll reply here but won't be surprised if our two posts were to be marked as inappropriate as they have nothing to do with Microsoft Tag Reader.

    I remember crossing by the QuickMark side to take it for testrun for my article but the download of the reader required to create a login so I didn't do it.

    Article:
    http://www.eenmanierom.nl/een-visitek...
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  • I’m sad about this!
    My customer just returned from a Vendor Expo. All the vendors were using QR Codes, and he asked me why I chose Microsoft Tag.

    After spending some time defending TAG. We both came to the conclusion that the Microsoft TAG Client needs to support QR Codes. We'll still use Microsoft TAGs, because they are superior. But without QR Code support, in the standard reader, we many need to focus exclusively on QR Codes.
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  • I’m sad
    I'm REALLY sad about this! Microsoft is COMPETELY dropping the ball on this, and seems to completely fail to understand how to compete in the market. The "new" employees fail to understand how Microsoft was so successful in the past.

    1. The Microsoft Tag Client should become the industry standard, and be the first application that anyone reaches for to scan ANY type of code ... period. Just like Outlook supports Exchange Server ... AND POP/SMTP/IMAP ... they need to embrace and extend. They are missing the boat here.

    2. Microsoft *COULD* begin a real solid campaign of creating large-size readable tags ... and again embrace the QR standard ... but evolve it for their own means. So people are getting used to seeing QR codes, and knowing they are scannable ... so Microsoft should allow for the creation of QR codes as URLs to the same Microsoft Tag URLs. AND they should not hesitate to put them at a user defined corner of the large size tag posters. The advantage that Microsoft has is that I can scan a large scale Microsoft Tag/Poster from across the room ... not having to walk up to inches away from a tag like QR. If people begin to see that where they notice a QR, they can try to scan the large size poster ... it will only work if using Microsoft Tag. The Microsoft Tag Client could tell them that what they are trying to scan is not using the enhanced MS technology, and that they have to walk up close ...

    3. Microsoft could try to listen to people here (since they set up the board in the first place!!) and pay attention to people trying to build on their technology. We have been trying, but can't seem to get the ear of anyone able to make a difference.

    This is another incredible Microsoft Technology that they seem to be squandering ... and if they resist the momentum of QR, and can't find ways to leverage there way in ... it's just a VHS vs. Betamax story ...
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  • To me it doesn't make any sense for the Microsoft Tag Reader to support other barcode technologies like QR. The technology needs to be optimized for the Microsoft Tag and I'm afraid trying to be all things to all people will dilute the functionality of MS Tags.
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  • I’m happy
    Currently Microsoft Tag Reader does not read the QR code format however customer feedback such as yours are being taken into consideration for future Microsoft Tag Reader releases.
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  • MS Tag Support -- thank you for the encouraging words!

    I use QR Codes daily, both as a consumer and as a business owner. I do completely understand the value of MS Tag, and would much prefer to use it -- in both my roles. However, due to the proliferation of QR Codes already being used, and the fact -- should I choose to use MS Tag -- that people would have to install a specific piece of software JUST to view my tag... I can't justify forcing people to install a piece of software just to view my content.

    HOWEVER, if that piece of software could also be used to read existing QR Codes in magainzes, bus-stop signs, and at the grocery store, THEN I could justify asking people to replace their existing QR-code reader client with MS Tag's client.

    In short, if your "client" software was an all-encompassing bar-code-reader, then yours would be the ONLY one that did so. People would install it, instead of using ZXing's.

    And, given the choice of MS-Tag vs QR Codes, all else being equal, I KNOW that ALL businesses would choose MS-Tag.

    So please, please, PLEASE, make an MS-Tag client that supports other formats.
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  • If microsoft hand a scanner wood hook up two my pc two scanber codes that wood bee compatable with microsoft tag.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CueCat
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  • I’m thankful
    We have opened a "Suggestion" Bug #1635 for our Team to review and take into consideration.
    • Thank you! And here is the thing that your team REALLY needs to think about. ALLOW QR Codes to be the indicator of a "scanable" asset ... even on a poster ... but obviously with Microsoft Tag, I can see the QR, and then use Microsoft Tag to scan the asset from a distance! I don't have to walk right up to the poster or whatever. People will realize that a QR is the indicator that the poster or whatever is scanable. In addition, we can make the URL of the QR match the URL of the Microsoft Tag ... so either will work. But the key is to abstract QR ... embrace and extend. :-)
    • Thank you very much. This does seem to be (a beginning) to an answer to the original question. I guess I'll now start to refollow this GetSatisfaction topic again to see where this goes!
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