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automatically open each mailbox with new mail like eudora - how ?

how do I get each mailbox that has received new mail ( filtered automatically from the Inbox) to open in a new tab/window like in Eudora ? I can't find the messages without minutes of pointless clicking unless I can do this.
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  • Use Eudora -- see:
    https://wiki.mozilla.org/Eudora_Releases

    Eudora 8 is based on Thunderbird. It's not quite "classic" Eudora yet, but they're working on it!
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  • I'll agree that it's nothing like 'classic Eudora', and is definitely more buggy than 'classic Eudora'. However, many (most ?) of those bugs are due to the underlying platform -- i.e., Thunderbird. Eudora 8.0b7 has at least given me some things that Thunderbird has not, such as:
    - Familiar "hot" keys
    - Familiar menus
    - Separate mailbox windows
    - a unified "Outbox"

    What I'm REALLY wanting that neither Thunderbird nor any other mail software has yet provided is the ability to control -- at the individual message level -- the deletion/retention of the message on the server (Eudora's "Server Status" column). At least it's on the "ToDo" list for Eudora.
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  • > [...] I have sheets of A4 listing bugs (1 crashing), misfeatures and design flaws [...]

    As you note those bugs, you can check to see if they've already been reported at "https://bugzilla.mozilla.org". If they have, you can "vote" for them -- the more votes, the more likely they'll get fixed. If they haven't been reported, go ahead and report _repeatable_ bugs (i.e., you can make them happen over and over without fail). It's important to distinguish between bugs, repeatable bugs, and "I wish it would work this way....". The developers can't fix things if they can't make them happen themselves, so it's important that you file reports for repeatable bugs (after having made sure the same bug hasn't already been reported).
    • I can tell you why I won't be contributing any bug reports to Mozilla Messaging, if you like. Reason 1: I started the registration process only to be greeted by a bald statement on their front page that they won't be taking any steps to prevent the e-mail address used for registration being available to spammers. They advise using a disposable web account as a 'fix'. Wow. Reason 2: They require me to have the latest wobbly pre-release build installed, but provide no guarantee that it can operate correctly side-by-side with the released version that I am actually using. In my experience Mozilla products always nuke your current installation. So why should I tolerate having to run a wobbly alpha on my valuable, live messages just in order to report a bug ? Reason 3: There are so many bugs listed at bugzilla that I simply can't be bothered to read through them all to determine whether mine is new or not. They categorise sub-classes of Thunderbird bugs using descriptions of the components of TBird that are only meaningful to developers, e.g. what is 'core' ? is my bug part of 'core' ? no clue - not a developer.

      So - no feedback from me, sorry.
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    Not sure of the etiquette here, but I think I may have found an answer to my own question. I have found an acceptable equivalent behaviour by saving a custom view filter which is " 'Age less than 1 day' OR 'Status is New' " as a search folder in 'Local Folders' and having this access my in/out-boxes and all the mailboxes and sub-folders that I have filtered my messages into.

    I'm still testing this. I'm assuming that 'New' status is actually 'Unread', as there is a 'Read' in the drop-down, but nothing that matches 'Unread' apart from 'New' - more ugliness, ugh. [edit: perhaps Unread is simply 'isn't Read' ? might be - might not be. I can't find a definition of 'New' status]

    If this actually works, it may be a nicer solution than the way Eudora does (did) it - as you don't get screen real-estate splatted by the mbox window of every touched mbox being opened.
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    • > Is it possible to download a separate Penelope which works with TBird 3.0 release ?

      Theoretically, yes; it's listed on the "Add-on" site (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thun....

      I downloaded the Penelope source and compiled it, generating Penelope 0.5a5, then tried to use it with the "build" of Thunderbird that I have been testing with (3.1a1pre) -- it is listed as "incompatible" in the "Add-on Manager". From
      the "About Eudora" box on Eudora 8.0b7, it appears that the extension is based on 3.0x:
      > Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090903 Eudora/3.0b3

      The "Add-on" page says it's compatible with versions 2.0b2 to 3.0a1 -- it might work with the "released" 3.0, but I couldn't say for sure.
    • Thanks again ! I'll wait until a stable released version of Penelope is available as a signed Mozilla add-on and then give it a try.
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  • Kakadora --

    > I can tell you why I won't be contributing any bug reports
    > to Mozilla Messaging, if you like. [remainder deleted]

    It really doesn't bother me whether you help or not; I'm not employed by, nor am I a representative of, Mozilla Messaging, Qualcomm, etc. I -- like you -- am a Eudora user who would like to see a suitable replacement.

    It sounds like you're a Mac user (like me); you might be interested in MailForge. It's not free, but from what I've seen it provides much of the look & feel of "classic Eudora" -- but not quite all the features, yet (it's missing the "Server Status" capability that I use every day). However, it is being actively developed, and as soon as the "Server Status" capability appears, I'm plunkin' down my $40!
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    Roland Tanglao (Thunderbird Technical Support Lead) December 22, 2009 00:04
    Kakadora : glad you found a solution

    it is quite permissible to answer your own question

    And you are right, you can't flag comments as answering a question which is why I use replies 99% of the time and only use comments a wee bit. e.g. when thanking folks for helping support the other Thunderbird folks
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  • Hi-
    Can you please elaborate on the solution? I am trying to do this as well!
    Thanks!
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