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How to create completely new Unified Folder (Smart Folder)?
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  • If you mean you've upgraded to 3.1 (as I did) and was surprised that the smart folder was gone. Go to View->Folders->Unified
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  • Did you manage to get it done? I can edit them but not change their title
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  • I’m frustrated
    This (View->Folders->Unified) didn't work at at on my computer. Was able to check "Unified" but it didn't change the view at all. This is REALLY ANNOYING! I've disabled the automatic upgrade in hopes of preventing some other new and exciting "improvement."
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    The folders worked beautifully in all previous versions of Thunderbird... now with 3.1 everything is a huge mess and I can't find the messages I need... f--king disaster. If Outlook wasn't so gruesome I would go back to using it.
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  • To anyone who posted here and has a problem, Milosz's posting is a question, not a problem submission (as far as I can tell). So. ... If the following doesn't help, please post your issue in a new topic in order to get appropriate attention on your problem.

    ... in your thunderbird profile delete %appdata%\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\--something--.default\Mail\smart mailboxes with thunderbird shut down, and let the smart folders rebuild
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  • I also have a need to create a unified folder in Thunderbird 3.1. This type of operation is quite trivial to do with Mac OS X Mail.app.

    I need to combine the contents of a number of Gmail account Starred "folders" into one unified folder, as is already done by default for Inbox, Trash, Sent, Junk, etc. Even All Mail has a unified folder under "Archives" but none exists for Starred. I need to make it happen if, for no other reason, than to stop wasting time manually copying the contents of those folders into a temporary, local folder just so I can process them in a chronological order. That's just one of the Gmail folders I'd like to see unified; there are others, of course.

    So, if any one has a clue as to how to manually create a unified folder, I'd really like to know how.

    Thanks.
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  • I’m frustrated
    I have had some success using the following... Tools -> Account Settings -> then under the account name Server Settings-> Advanced -> and mark the box "global something or other"..... I do that again and again with each account and I end with sort of a messy global inbox...

    ... which is a pathetic replacement for the simple beautiful set up I had with previous versions of Thunderbird. Thunderbird 3 Totally Sucks. I hate it. I beg the developers on my knees to kill it and make Thunderbird 4 exactly like version 2 was.
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  • > Tools -> Account Settings -> then under the account name Server Settings-> Advanced -> and mark the box "global something or other"...

    that would be Global Inbox, and it's only available for pop accounts - it "merges" the folders for the pop account into local folders

    > replacement for the simple beautiful set up I had with previous versions of Thunderbird.

    ctrl+F, or View > Toolbars > Quick Filter, or click the spyglass on the tab bar doesn't do it for you?
    • "... ctrl+F, or View > Toolbars > Quick Filter, or click the spyglass on the tab bar doesn't do it for you? ..."

      No, it doesn't work for me Wayne; at least not in the way that I would expect it to work. Maybe I'm expecting more than is available in the Thunderbird product with regards to how search works but whenever I search for something, the results come back only for the mailbox that happens to be highlighted in the folder list. If there's a way to have search work across every single folder, I may be missing how it's done or how to set it up. Either way, it's not that obvious to me.

      I guess I'm looking for an exact replacement here in Thunderbird of the Macintosh Smart Folders feature found in its Mail.app. I feel lost and out of control here in Thunderbird in a linux environment without that feature.
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  • > how to manually create a unified folder, I'

    a simple search at http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US... - type in
    Folder Star
    brings up a nicely written article "All starred message folder?" Which can also be arrived at by searching getsatisfaction, ala http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_me...
    • Wayne, if all I wanted to do was gather together Google's starred messages, I'd open that folder and do a quick search for "starred." However, as I wrote before, I'm looking for a way to be able to collect together the results of a search, from all mailboxes scattered across many different types of email accounts, into one "smart folder" (as in how Apple implements it).

      I've read through the first link you provided, but instead of using "Folder Star" I used "unified folder" as in my search phrase more accurately reflects the ultimate goal of what I'm looking to do. What I got was a return link to this very discussion topic at the top of the results.

      The second link you provided was informational but, after I applied it, even using the very filter mentioned in that article, the saved search yielded no results for me. Either something has changed between TB 3.0 and 3.1 or TB must not be completely installed on my system (standard package install on Ubuntu), but I got no results.

      Expanding upon that second link, I created a saved search for a term that I know to exist across many mailboxes and mail accounts. I saved the search under Local Folders as I couldn't find a way to save it in the top level as a parent. I created a single filter looking for my phrase and I selected every mailbox known to TB. The saved search returned zero results. I did a global search on the very same phrase using Ctrl-K and received every message I was expecting to find. Then I went looking for a way to save that global search as a saved search, but no such option exists anywhere that I can see; it's definitely not an option under "Save As..." in the File menu.

      Perhaps its a Saved Search that I'm looking for instead of a Unified Folder. Maybe I'm confusing what TB used to call "Smart Folders" with how that term is applied in Mac's Mail.app. I don't know and I don't care to get all involved in a semantic discussion. What I'm looking for is a way to search my entire mail repository and to store those search results in a folder so I don't have to keep redoing the searches manually every time I open TB.

      Thanks for taking the time to reply.
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  • > a way to have search work across every single folder,

    there are two ways
    1. within a single account - Edit > Find > Search Messages aka ctrl+shift+F
    2. across all accounts - Search all messages aka ctrl+K found in the top right
    • For simple one word or phrase queries, that works simply and adequately enough. Now, what do you do when you need to search by a combination of those? As I wrote before, Saved Searches failed, in my test, to produce even one result from a single word search query whereas Ctrl-K produced the expected results. If Saved Searches fails on even the simplest queries, how could I possibly expect it to work with a search query that contains multiple filters?

      I'm not looking to spend a good chunk of my day performing Ctrl-K searches then, for each set of results, having to try and figure out how to whittle them down into a set that contains what I'm looking for. The Ctrl-K process does not allow for searching by multiple filters and, even if it did, there is no way to save those results as a Saved Search (as can be done with Mail.app).

      I process emails for others. The quicker I can turn around emails the more work I can get done. As it stands now, TB is impeding my ability to do that. Good thing this setup is only a trial to see if I can recommend it to the higher ups. Without the ability to create saved searches that work without having to resort to manually typing in Ctrl-K queries then manually vetting the results, trying to pare them down to exactly what I'm looking for... I cannot recommend TB as the answer to their nor my needs.
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  • Global search is not listed in any menus - it's only known as Search all messages in the main toolbar.

    Note - there are 3 ways to find messages. They all work differently, so it's important not to conflate how the work or their capabilities:

    1. quick filter bar - uses every character in the raw messages of one folder, searches substrings, can't force it to do "whole words" or OR searches

    2. Search all messages aka Global Search - uses a special "pre"indexed database (it doesn't actually search in the messages when you do your search), all folders, can't do OR searches, is limited to search terms of 3 characters or more, and excludes a couple special folders, like trash, and doesn't index beyond the first 20k of an attachment and doesn't index the quoted portion of messages

    3. Search Messages - one folder or one full one account, (unless you save it and alter it), is the only search type that can be saved, search terms of any size, can approximate whole word searches by using space character in front of or after the character string, limited to OR all terms or AND all terms

    Now, "unified folder" is new terminology in Thunderbird to describe like folders from different accounts. Eg, all Inboxes. It implements this using ...

    Saved Search, aka Virtual Folders. To make this work across multiple accounts you must use "Choose" and then select all the folders that you want to have iterated. Unfortunately the feature is somewhat limited, in that a) checking the box for the account name doesn't work and b) it doesn't automatically add new accounts, nor add new folders created in an existing account.

    Saved Search works in all current releases of Thunderbird.

    Also, there may be add-ons that help - have you looked at addons.mozilla.org? eg https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thun...
    yields https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thun... and https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thun...
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  • there's one more thing about # 2, for long phrases/text strings it might fail because the comparison operation fails across line breaks. That might also be true for #1.

    So this might be your problem with "I created a single filter looking for my phrase". You might approximate finding it by breaking it into shorter pieces. For example
    The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
    could be done as a saved search of
    The quick
    and
    brown fox
    and
    jumps

    Or as
    brown fox
    and
    lazy dog
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  • (as if that isn't enough)
    it is possible to edit the filter rules by hand
    see http://kb.mozillazine.org/Filters_(Th...

    great for copying/duplicating complex filters
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  • I've just created copies of the "Inbox" and "Inbox.msf" archives, wich are in [Profile]\Mail\smart mailboxes, expecting to see them displayed in the folder pane. But nothing happened...
    Try to open the mentioned "Inbox.msf" with a text editor. It's impenetrable for me.
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  • I’m frustrated
    I use TB 6.x. I have sixteen IMAP accounts. I love the "Unified Folder" views, particularly for the Inbox, sent, and junk folders. I am amazed that THERE ISN'T A WAY FOR A USER TO CREATE ONE THAT WORKS ACROSS ALL ACCOUNTS AND THAT AUTO UPDATES. Filing a bug / feature / enhancement request now.
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