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Mail remains on ISP after download to Thunderbird

When I download messages,why do the messages not get erased from my ISP (Frontiernet.net)
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  • TB is telling you it has set itself up to use the IMAP protocol.

    The name ("address") of the server isn't too important; they probably have several servers running on the same machine, at the same IP address; so long as it responds to a client using an appropriate protocol then the name is not too important.

    I can ping both pop3.frontiernet.net and imap.frontiernet.net and get the same IP address.

    In short: despite the server's name, it is IMAP.
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  • OK, so you are happy with the difference between POP and IMAP and why your messages stay on the server?

    If you want to delete messages from the server while keeping copies, I'd suggest you move the required messages to your Local Folders.
    • POP vs IMAP is fine. But I still have the problem with incoming messages staying on the ISP's server and they get downloaded on every re-boot. In OutlookExpress which I've used since about it's first day, messages were downloaded when I brought OE up and then downloaded as they occur. Every time a download occured, messages that successfully downloaded were removed from the ISP's server. Trying to get at that problem got me to ask if Inbox in TB was on a server on TB or where is it on my computer? And why aren't inbound mail deleted from my ISP server? What happens if I create an Inbox under Local??? Would inbound messages go to the one in Local instead?
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  • POP account folders are on your computer.

    With an IMAP account, the data is stored on the remote server, and downloaded as required. Local copies can be made for your convenience so you can look at your messages whilst off line.

    I think you want POP. I'd delete the account and re-create it, this time at the end, press Edit and change to pop. (Copy your messages to Local Folder first.)

    If you are considering staying with IMAP, a Message Filter could be set up to simply move all emails arriving at the IMAP inbox into another folder under Local Folders. I'd advise you not to call it "Inbox" - it becomes a bit confusing.
    • I think that nearly any ISP is an IMAP. I'm using Frontiernet.net on Thunderbird on this Windows7 computer and I've had that same ISP on every computer that I've had at home over the last 10 years, using Windows98, then WindowsXP, then Windows Vista and now Windows7 and windows7 no longer has OE so I switched to Thunderbird. Every thing up to and including Vista when downloading email (which was automatic) would remove the downloaded messages from the ISP and they would be in the Inbox instead. I suspect that OE was signaling the ISP to remove messages as they were downloaded and I'd like to do that thru Thunderbird. It was very obvious that emails that had been downloaded were stored in the Inbox and I could control where the mailboxes were stored. I used to store them on HDD and for the last couple of years have stored them on a thumb drive. And OE had one set of boxes containing Inbox, SentItems, Drafts, Trash, etc. It appears that TB has two sets of boxes, the first containing the Inbox and Trash. The second set contains Drafts, Sent, trash (again), Outbox and all the boxes that I've created. I can get at that second set and therefore know where that set of boxes is stored, but how can I change it's location to a thumb drive. Where is the first set consisting of Inbox and Trash stored? What folder and what disk????
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  • By default, email clients and email providers go for pop. TB has broken this convention by electing to use IMAP where available.

    You can however force POP if it is available.

    I think you want POP. I'd delete the account and re-create it, this time at the end, press Edit and change to pop. (Copy your messages to Local Folder first.)




    Almost all email providers support POP. An enormous majority of these will also support IMAP. It's your choice, where both are available.

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    ...Every thing up to and including Vista when downloading email (which was automatic) would remove the downloaded messages from the ISP...
    you are describing classic POP3 behaviour.

    Note that a new installation of TB defaults to leaving messages on the server for a pre-set period. When you do set up POP, check these settings:



    Folder locations are set here:



    You might have fun getting your thumbdrive to always take the same drive letter. ;)
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  • Oh, and yes, TB allows you to treat each account as distinct. You can merge accounts by using a Global Inbox (POP only) or a composite view

    View|Folders|Unified

    This simulates they way just about all other email clients work, placing all messages into a single set of shared folders.

    Again, it's your choice.
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