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Reusing Nero Express OEM version without original recording hardware

Hello,

I bought a LG DVD Recorder many years ago (about 2007), when I was building my new PC, and it came with a CD containing the OEM version of Nero Express and InCD. Precisely, it contains:

InCD 4.3.18.0,
Nero Express 6.6.1.6
- Nero Cover Designer 2.3.4.3
- Nero CD-DVD Speed 4.0.6.0
- Nero DriveSpeed 3.0.6.0
- Nero BackItUp 1.2.0.62.

Today, I don't have the original LG DVD recorder anymore, it's gone. And the computer I built isn't with me anymore (and it was deeply modified, it's not my "original" PC anymore).

My question is: I still have the original CD containing Nero Express 6 OEM and InCD 4 OEM. Can I install and use them on another computer I have, with other recording hardware? Or is the OEM version just for use with the recording hardware I originally bought (that came with them bundled on)?

Thanks in advance,
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  • The best I could say is to try it. Sometimes OEM versions will work on a different computer.

    If your operating system is Win 7 or later, copy the setup file to your hard drive. Right click on it and select Properties. In the Compatibility tab, set the compatibility mode to XP. In addition, check the box to "run this programs as administrator." In Win10, that box is outside the Compatibility tab.

    I assume you have the serial number.

    Does that work?
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  • Hi

    Nero Express 6 OEM and InCD 4 OEM works really well on my system (it's an AMD Duron machine running Win98SE). My question is not about its compatibility with other systems and / or hardware, I'm asking about legality: I'm allowed to use my OEM versions of Nero Express 6 and InCD 4 with other recording hardware other than the original DVD recorder my OEM versions came with?

    For example, I cannot legally use Windows OEM outside the original hardware it came with. The same apply to OEM versions of Nero Express 6 OEM and InCD 4 OEM, or can I use those OEM versions with different hardware without being illegal?

    Thanks again,
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  • As far as I know, there shouldn't be any legal issues. You would only be able to use it on one computer and still activate any patents that may have be included with your version. Nero can reactivate the patents, if necessary.
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  • Patents? What's that, I didn't read anythig abount until now.

    Anyways, I did read the Nero's EULA, but it didn't answered my questions. I'm copying the respective part of the EULA below, so anybody can helkp in providing such information:

    <<< A. LICENSE TERMS AND CONDITIONS APPLICABLE TO SOFTWARE ACQUIRED FROM OEM PARTNER

    I. Grant of license
    This Agreement permits you to use one copy of the Software acquired with
    this license on any single computer ("OEM License"), provided the Software
    is in use on only one computer at any given time. If you have acquired a
    multiple license for the Software, then at any one time you may have in use
    up to as many copies of the Software as you have licenses. The Software is
    "in use" on a computer when it is loaded into the temporary memory or
    installed into the permanent memory (e.g. hard disk, CD ROM, or other
    storage device) of that computer, except that a copy installed on a network
    server for the sole purpose of distribution to other computers is not
    considered "in use". If the anticipated number of users of the Software
    might exceed the authorized number of applicable licenses, then you must
    have a reasonable mechanism or process in place to assure that the number
    of concurrent uses of the Software does not exceed the number of licenses.
    THE OEM LICENSE GRANTED HEREIN IS ONLY VALID IF ACQUIRED AS A BUNDLE WITH CD/DVD-RECORDING HARDWARE.

    II. Copyright
    The Software is owned by Nero or its licensors and is protected by
    copyright laws, international treaty provisions, and other national laws.
    You agree that you have no right, title or interest in the Software, except
    as set forth in Subsection I. If the Software is not copy protected you
    may either

    (a) make one copy of the Software solely for backup or archival
    purposes, or

    (b) transfer the Software to a single hard disk provided you keep the
    original solely for backup or archival purposes.
    Product manual(s) or written materials accompanying the Software may not be
    copied.

    III. Other restrictions
    You may not rent or lease the Software, but you may permanently transfer
    your rights under this Agreement provided that: (i) you transfer all copies
    of the Software and all written materials; (ii) the recipient agrees to be
    bound by the terms of this Agreement; and (iii) you remove any and all
    copies of the Software from your computer and cease any further use of the
    Software. Any transfer must include the most recent update and all prior
    versions. You may not copy the Software except as expressly set forth
    above. You may not reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble the Software,
    and you are not allowed to post or otherwise make the Software available on
    the World Wide Web. If you did not acquire the Software in its original
    packaging and you are not a transfer recipient under this subsection, you
    are not licensed to use the Software. >>>
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  • HI I think I actually have the same pink-labelled LG-supplied disk that you have that came with a dvd rewriter I bought in about 2005, and had no problem reinstalling it on the same/other machines/Windows Operating Systems with or without the dvd-writer it came with.

    To test it I've even just managed to install it under Windows 10, which is already running Nero 7 Essentials and Nero 2017.

    The Serial Number for the OEM version is picked up by the setup program and no check is made for the hardware it came with.

    For Nero 7, should you download an update available on the Nero website, you will need to supply the OEM Serial Number, which you should make a note of when it appears on the screen during setup.
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  • Yes, my copy of Nero and InCD works well on other machines I have. But I don't know it I'm legally allowed to use Nero OEM softwares without the original hardware they came with. That's my question.
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    • Yeah, that's what I'm expecting for my OEM versions, unfortunately I'm not sure of that. I'm trying to find some Nero official e-mail support to ask about that old version (Nero 6), but, until now, I'm unlucky.

      And you're right, Nero 7 and 6 were the best versions. :)
    • Nero tech support doesn't support any versions older than v2016.

      I wouldn't necessarily agree that v6 or v7 are the best versions. Nero Video has far more capability starting with v10. My personal preference is v2015 but I don't personally use the newer features in v2017 or v2018 (v2016 didn't do much of anything new). It all depends on what you use the software for since some features have been removed over time.

      You might try going to Customer Service-

      http://www.nero.com/enu/support/conta...

      to get an answer to your question. Note that they don't answer technical questions.
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  • In terms of Product Development Version 6 was a great improvement on V5, and V7 with its SmartStart Menu was a much more rounded product, even in 'Essentials' form. The final update available from Nero took it up another notch.

    I only used V9 and V10 in 'Essentials' form and was seriously underwhelmed by them with noticeably less functionality than 7 Essentials.

    I really like Nero 2017, but am dismayed by the loss of Wave Editor and Showtime. Luckily, I still have 7 Essentials to fall back on for these.
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  • WaveEditor is now a free tool. You can download it, CoverDesigner and SoundTrax, from nero.com, downloads, Nero Free Tools.

    Nero MediaHome took the place of ShowTime. It does a good job but doesn't have all the features available in ShowTime. Ditto for PhotoSnap.

    In addition, the Nero Blu-ray Player was removed with v2016 so one can no longer play either Blu-ray or AVCHD-DVD discs in Nero MediaHome. ShowTime required one to purchase a separate plug-in for that capability. For this capability, most people are using the free Leawo blu-ray player or other similar software.

    Starting with v10, Nero Vision/Nero Video has far more features than v9 and earlier. I have v8 through v2018 installed (primarily for use in answering questions).
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  • Thanks, Wither1, I sent a messagem to Nero Costumer Support. Let's see if I get some answer, I'll be sharing that answer here if I can.

    For my needs, Nero v6/v7 are enough.
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    Nero Customer Support answered me, and I 'shouldn't' use an OEM version without the original recorder it came with: since it is legacy and not supported anymore, the question becomes more ethical.

    Thank you all for your support and answers.
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    I guess they indirectly answered your question because that answer doesn't indicate that there's a legal issue with using it on another system. I still don't think there's a legal issue putting it on another system.
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  • Surely it is normal practice to 'reuse' software that you have legitimately installed on one system, on another system. Also for whatever reason it may not be practical to reuse the original recorder on a new machine.

    In any case it is certainly possible that the software/recorder may not be compatible with the new system.
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