Space bar *always* jumps to next story

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The new space bar functionality is not working for me. Instead of jumping to the next story while scrolling past the end of the current story, space bar always jumps to the next story.

I'm using Firefox on Ubuntu.

As a side note, I would like to be able to disable this new functionality in the preferences.
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yeah, previously this scrolled. which is sad.

Chrome on OSX.
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Can you post a screenshot? I bet this is just a bug in a mode I didn't consider.
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Ah-ha, in List view, right? I'll get that fixed momentarily.
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yeah, list view. can't screenshot because.. you can't really see anything happening.
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The screenshot was only to determine the set of modes. All stories vs single story, list view vs split view, top/left/right split, etc. Anyhoo, I'm working on making space bar scroll to the end of the story and then automatically open the next story.
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This has been fixed for the List view. It now scrolls until it reaches the end of the story (actually 50 pixels above the bottom) and then moves to the next story.
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confirmed fix! thanks.
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I'd also like to disable this feature.
(Also I'd like to disable Imperfect Proxy, which I find does more harm then good :-)

I do appreciate the effort, but these features are just not for me.
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Hmm, how are you using it differently than before? It only engages the next story if you scroll beyond the story, so I don't see a reason to expose this as a preference, since you wouldn't be running into it anyhow.
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The problem is with text view.

This is how it typically goes:
While scanning through articles in list view I see something that's interesting. I press shift-enter to switch to the temporary text view. I skim the article pressing the space bar to scroll and accidentally press it one too many times while I'm reading the last paragraph. So now I'm looking at the wrong article and in the wrong reading mode. I have to go back to the article I was reading, press shift-enter again, and find my way back to the end of the article, this time being REALLY careful not to press the space bar one too many times.

It's a lot easier if the space bar only scrolls, and doesn't advance the article. The space bar is also handy if I want to quickly skip to the end of a long article, I can just hold it down.

Few, that was long winded. I hope you could follow all that. It's hard to describe this stuff with text. 
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I was coming here to report the same experience/problem and saw this thread. With the new behavior, I'm constantly accidentally jumping to the new story when trying to read the last paragraph of an article. Is it at all possible this could be made an option?
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Yes, I'm finding this frequently annoying.

Pressing space might accidentally take you to the next article before you're done with it (eg. wanted to save for later).  Worse, it might take you to a whole other folder losing the article you wanted to read (Fortunately Read Stories comes to the rescue here to find) it again.  Worse still, I sometimes might hold down space to get to the bottom of the story, but now this might zoom through marking lots of stories as read against my wishes.

I need to teach myself never to use the spacebar as it's dangerous.

Can we please have a way to turn it off?
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Same here.... prefer not opt out of the new feature.
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This is currently happening to me in all views, as far as I can tell. I thought it was a purposeful change. It's really making it hard to read stories. If it's purposeful, *please* give us the option to revert.
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I'm going to add a preference later today to choose between: off (old behavior), next unread at 90% of screen (current behavior), at 50%, and at 10%. Or perhaps re-use the mouse indicator line for the space bar. 
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Did this preference get added? I've looked a few times but haven't seen it. Thanks!
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I don't see it either.  Keyboard preferences still has a slider to select what percentage of the screen will scroll with each press of the spacebar.  If there's a preference to revert to the original behavior, I haven't found it.
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Hi Samuel

It's been a week now, but that preference still doesn't seem to be there (or I'm blind?).

Do you know when you'll be pushing this out for all of us to use?
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Beuller?
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2nerdscom

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Pretty please add the option to disable new spacebar behavior as first mentioned three weeks ago?
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What percentages do people have their space bar set to? I think the default is 40%. Does everybody set it to 90-100?
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I have it at the default: 40%.
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90
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90% here. Related to the space bar: In list view, the space bar is opening a story even when there are none open. It used to be that I could use the space bar to page through the list of stories; that is now broken with recent space bar changes.
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40%
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40%
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30% here.

Just to be clear, the issue for most of us (I think) is not that it's too easy to accidentally navigate to the next story with the space bar, but that you can navigate to then next story with the space bar at all. We want to use j/k to navigate between stories and space/shift-space to navigate within a story.

Like Chris who posted above, I often held down the space bar to scroll to the bottom of a long article which is now disastrous.

Please add a preference to turn it off.
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ditto - as Jesse states above, this is exactly the way I have always used the space bar and the "j" & "k" keys for navigation. Please allow this new behavior to be turned off.
Thanks!!!
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I have mine set to 90%
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Ok, help me out here. I can just add a preference that turns off moving to the next unread story, but I believe there are a few features that people want:

  • Move to the next unread when the bottom of the story is visible (default behavior)
  • Move to the next unread when the bottom of the story is past the mouse indicator line (the little red triangle on the left side of the feed view)
  • Only scroll the Feed view, don't automatically move to the next unread story (old behavior, but I think this should at least be turned into something more along the lines of the above option or when the bottom of the story is above X% of the screen)
  • Open the next unread story if not story is selected.
I think these are two separate features. I'm thinking a checkbox for the bottom option and a radio select for the top three. 
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My preference would just be option 3 - restoring the old behavior.

I have the taco locked to the top of the window since I purely use the keyboard to navigate, so anything involving it would not be preferable for me. And I'm not 100% clear what the last option you mention would do. When isn't a story selected?

Thanks for taking the time to work on this!
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If you don't have "Auto-select first unread story", then when you load a feed/folder in Feed view in List/Split/Full/Grid mode, then no story is selected and hitting space bar would find the first unread story, akin to hitting 'n'.
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I see. I suppose that wouldn't be a bad option as a checkbox.

Thanks again.
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All I really care about is having the third option (the previous behavior). Thanks Samuel!
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I'm thinking a checkbox for the bottom option and a radio select for the top three.
That sounds good to me!
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I really just use the space bar for scrolling; it works in the same way as PageDown on other sites but I'd gotten used to it scrolling 40% of the way in NewsBlur. I'd appreciate an option to have the space bar as a scroll-only option; I like to be able to scroll down to see the next few articles in a feed before I decide on which ones I want to expand.
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Agreed. With keyboard shortcuts, consistency of behavior trumps everything else. I always expect space to scroll (60% in my case) and I always hit "j" if I want to get to the top of the next story. Often, I scroll the page so that my eyes can focus on a smaller area near the top of the screen, I find it physically more comfortable.

The absolute worst thing is when space bar takes me out of a story I'm still reading and into a whole different folder. Then I have to "m" the newly-selected story, grab my mouse trackball, find "Read Stories", and find the spot where I left off. (Does this have something to do with the "focus" being on the folders instead of the story pane? I've often mouse-selected a folder before going to the keyboard when this happens...)
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Ok, added a new preference to the Keyboard options.

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Thank you!!
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thaaaaanks!
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Thanks!
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Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
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Gratitude engulfs you.  :)
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Thank you, thank you, thank you!
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Thank you Samuel.