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I’m frustrated

The virtual gifts are ridiculous!

I really don't get these 'virtual gifts'.

I can not understand why someone would be so dumb to pay $ 1,50 for such a tiny image!

If NING wants to create a revenue-sharing thing, then please think of something else. Like PREMIUM themes or something, or 'photo-upload restrictions and having members pay for extra photo uploads? Or something else. I think we could make much more revenue if NING would share revenue for photouploads then for ridiculous 'virtual gifts'. By the way, these virtual gifts are for free on facebook, then why would someone pay for it on NING?

We've been asking for groups improvements for ages now and what do we get? 'VIRTUAL GIFTS' for gods sakes!
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  • Anyone? Please, some feedback would be wonderful :)
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    Well, you and I don't usually see eye to eye on stuff...But we do on this. I made my thoughts known in a post elsewhere, but now that I have found your post, I think its more fitting that i share them here-I also like your idea on charging for photo uploads when members get crazy with it.-we need some way to discourage that...Nice post-here are my thoughts to Ning;

    Ok Ning- I like the Gifts idea...like on Myspace...but the idea of selling them to me is just really cheap,cheezy and sucks. I am removing the gifts feature for now-I hope you make it better.
    Here is what i would like to see
    1-I would like members to earn points for logging in-and contributing something (Not Have to purchase them with cash)
    2-I would dump all the gifts that are in the store right now and create a simple set of my own, more fitting to my site.I see that this option is available now-so I would just like for the 'gifts" thing to be free to members, and they earn points for gifts by logging in...

    Ning, you got close on this 1 in my books-but you blew it when you tried to monitize it-to me, your revenue should come from creating the best platform with the best features, then you would get more creators and more cash...Please don't try to put a profit in your own pockets by charging OUR members

    Keep trying guys-if you ever get in the frame of mind that makes you say
    'What can we do to help our NCs" for the sake of the NC and not Ning, "
    then you will be on the same page as us.

    "We" should be the ones to profit from our members, and Ning should profit from providing the platform to us..(even if you have to charge us a little more for some extras.

    Heck Ning, I am paying out maybe 3 times what i pay you each month to 3rd party Apps, Widgets,Chatrooms,contact form,etc each month, that I could happily pay to you guys if you would integrate them.

    In my opinion, you guys leave a lot of money on the table that could be yours, all the while you chase some of this korny stuff.

    All in all, you guys are improving-and I see you trying to do better, hats off to you-just get a better feel for what we" The NCS" want before you create.

    Just my opinion, thanks for letting me share it
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    Facebook charges for virtual gifts and makes a killing on the business. Several estimates have revenue generated from virtual gifts at around $15-30 million (at Facebook alone) in 2008. I just read 2009 estimates of $75 million for Facebook's virtual gifts (http://www.onlinemarketingperformance....
    • Hello Steve,
      Facebook is going through billions of dollars to simply run their site.
      30 million is a big joke, especially when you consider that they have over 300 million users.

      if you compare "statistically" speaking, facebook to my site of 5000 members, i will be making .000003 dollars a year.

      Thanks
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  • Thanks for the link Steve...was interesting reading and speculation...I couldn't help but notice FB is charging a buck for the 'Gift" while Ning is rolling it out at $1.50...here is the deal though...My site is not facebook-its not a kids site and it does not markets to kids with daddys credit card-in fact my social network is nothing like facebook at all-so for me to "Market" these gifts to my users would make me look like a fool. You see, as "grownups" some of us find spending money for absolutely nothing to be nuts in this economic environment.
    This should be an APP, similar to the app on Myspace, where you buy your friends and earn the points to do it by logging into the site...It should be free...and it should be a 'GIFT" to NCs to improve traffic to their sites.

    I am sure there are ning sites that could profit with this, so I am not knocking it for everyone-it's just not right for my site and the fact that ning wants half is kinda...well...dirty... Kinda makes me wonder whats next...is ning going to start serving up their own version of Google Ads? Hey... that's not a bad idea
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  • That idea of charging for photo uploads would be a absolute winner for my site. I have nearly 13,000 photos. It would have been 20,000 if we had not reigned it in by setting guidelines and approving them.

    If I could set a maximum number free and then charge even a small amount for anything over that I would be earning more and probably get more quality photos.
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  • Virtual gifts are totally inappropriate for many forums: certainly the ones I run, I feel. I agree, this should be an optional item, although from experience I know virtual items do generate revenue, back from the ays when I worked for the 3d community avaterra.com. Photo upload charges would be a much better option: Flickr (for one) has done it with great success, surely?
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  • Great that you people like my idea!

    Well i suggest that each networkcreator could set a standard amount of photo's they allow their members to upload for FREE, let's say: '10 photo's for free (but each NC should set the default number of free photos / videos) Affter they reach this limit, they should receive a notification like: 'you reached the maximum amount of free photos, you can purchase a set of (for example) 5 photos for € 1,50. So, members can buy a SET instead of one pic at the time and i think € 1,50 is reasonable, when you have thousands of members this would be a great revenue.

    YOUTUBE videos must stay free, but just the direct videouploads should be charged, since they cost discspace and bandwidth.

    Same model i would like to apply for special groups with specific information that we dont want to share for free...

    If NING would give us this abillity, both NING and US the NC's would have more revenue out of our networks and in the same time, it helps NC's who have no money to spend for their networks, to save money to invest into their networks. Wouldn't that be great?

    Thanks,
    Zohra
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  • Hi Xena,

    I just want to set limit to prevent my members to run riot with uploading MASSIVE amounts of picture, because this happends all the time. Members who try to upload a quadrillion of photos... offcourse this has to be an OPTION and NOT mandatory :-) let's get this straight :)

    Cheers,
    Zohra
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  • I’m frustrated
    If fees for purchasing Ning Credits will remain, it would be better for me to disable the application before my members leave me for this.
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  • Guys, please go here and complain about Getstasifaction.. what they did was 100% unacceptable.
    thank you in advance.

    http://getsatisfaction.com/getsatisfa...
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  • I’m frustrated
    I'm disappointed that NING seems to have put so much effort into something I see as a bit of a gimmick rather than focusing on key features that would really make our networks rock.

    I"m starting to lose faith. First they release NING apps - which frankly I had high hopes for but which, when released, turned out to be quite a disappointment - now this!!

    9mths ago I was really excited about NING, but now they are starting to look a bit 'desperate' and I'm starting to question where they are going.

    I hope NING do something interesting soon and give us some of the key features that would really make our networks sing, rather than continue to disappoint with these none essential features.
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  • I’m vewy happy
    Ning apps being "quite a disappointment" is a HUGE understatement.
    Ning apps are garbage, plain and simple.

    and thats why I am leaving ning, not because of the last fiasco.

    I would link their competitors add ons but I dont want to seem like I am advertising for them, let me just say they are INCREDIBLE!
    _______________________________
    Subscription / Membership
    ________________________________
    THEIR gift app.
    ***Virtual Gifts

    Users can send gifts to each other
    Gift message privacy - can be set to private/public
    Pay by "Activity Points"
    Pay by real money - Paypal, Google checkout or other supported payment gateway (requires payment plugin)
    Admin - Upload new gifts
    Admin - Feature gifts
    Admin - Set points price for each gift
    Admin - Limit amount of available virtual gifts
    Admin - Track statistics
    ________________________________

    Smiles :D
    _______________________________

    RECOMMENDATIONS! (Linkedin like feature)
    ________________________________

    and 100s more completely customizable..

    I CANT WAIT.
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  • I’m confident
    these types of gifts r huge on facebook..im glad we have them too now!!
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  • I’m HeHeing you
    Kund,
    We are glad you love them!
    How many have you sold?
    are you rich yet?

    Gratz!
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  • i think it should be much cheaper!!! and the price is in dolars!! we need price in euros and much cheaper!
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  • I’m excited
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    Add your two cents to the new NINGSHOUTS twitter-style network: http://ningshouts.shoutem.com

    This is a place where you can vent about ning and promote your ning social networks and discuss anything NING-related!
    • Jeez! Will you please stop plugging this "shoutouts" site. I looked at it and it is basically you and two other whiners. LAME!

      Sure NING isn't perfect and has made some mistakes but your posting this linking to every discussion topic shows that you just want to complain and point out what is wrong...

      There is a great big world of positiveness waiting for you. Get out in it!
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  • I’m shooing youz.
    dude, its her thread.

    shoo.. shoo..go away!
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    Mack,

    She's posted the same stupid "add your two cents" message to numerous threads. This "NING gifts suck" sentiment is posted in several other threads and this one says nothing different. It's so simple. DISABLE THEM ON YOUR NETWORK!

    If you guys hate NING so much and are so smart, move your sites to real servers. Until then, quit whining.

    Anybody can point out problems, few bring solutions.

    Weak!
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    • @ A Ning NC I understand your frustration and concern with the points you raise. My only comment is that this topic (Ning gifts) has been addressed in numerous threads and another one titled, "The virtual gifts are ridiculous!" does nothing to move the subject forward. Additionally, the multiple instances of Zohra's "Add your two cents" link only continue to separate NCs from NING. Like I said before, there are other options out there and if things are so bad, find one and be happy. As for solutions I bring, all I can say is that I'm here seeking answers to two issues that I couldn't solve for myself. Most of the problems I've had with network I've solved myself and always look inward for the solution first. I can assure you that you will never find me posting redundant, negative threads for issues that have already been addressed on multiple occasions.

      Again, I understand your concerns and actually agree in principle with many. However, inflammatory threads that offer nothing more than an opportunity to "beat a dead horse" are worthless and do nothing to 1) solve the problem and 2) improve the relationship with those that can solve it.
    • @thebmxdirt i DONT HATE NING, you get me wrong. OK maybe i went a bit overboard with my NING SHOUTS THINGY, but what harm does it do?

      My NINGSHOUTS Network is not meant to COMPLAIN about ning but share thoughts about anything NING and PROMOTE your ning network FOR FREE... i think you didnt get the message ;)
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  • I’m not weak!
    hey, you dont have to tell me twice, I have requested my content and waiting on ning to send it.
    I just finished giving ning a praise and I completely agree with you that people need to stop wining and move.

    but, this is her thread and i think you are completely missing the point about the gift app.

    most people are angry because of the opt-out.... ahhh fowgetabaat it, i am tired of talking about this and it doesn't concern me anymore.

    that said, big kudos for ning for giving us our content.
    ning is GREAT, its just not for everyone.

    my praise http://getsatisfaction.com/ning/topic...
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  • I’m confident
    thebmxdirt,

    It was my idea to open up a place where we can disuss different options to NING http://twitter.com/My_NING_Options

    Zohra suggested I use something else than Twitter, but I had no time this week or I would had set up a private forum, so Zohra set up this page for us http://ningshouts.shoutem.com...and I welcome everyone to join to discuss alternative options. We are not (only) here to whine but we are worried...we have a business...

    T-ogheter
    E-veryone
    A-rchives
    M-ore
    • Robert, I would join but it just doesn't concern nor effect me anymore.
      I do wish you all the best.

      ning should be for fun, building a business around it is.. well, not a good thing.
    • I Mack, I would love if you could come over and give us your feedbacks... we will give ours when the time has come...so we learn quicker and can help others to avoid some stupid mistakes or whatever could come our way... we all know what we want and its almost the same thing...so why not keep in touch, you never know ;-)

      I wish you all the best and good luck too mate.
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  • I’m moving on up!
    ok, as soon as I have something solid I promise to report back.
    it should be a month give or take.
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  • Mack--can u give us a hint what platform you are moving to? I am looking at a couple other options myself.......
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  • The virtual gifts are cheap and tacky - and not even free !!! When we have members join - we ask NOTHING from them - we are a spiritual site - there for support and a place for people to gain knowledge and understanding not a way to take their money. Why when our chat has been working below par since release date and months of submitting tickets - with little or no success or even answer, OR the sites not working compatible with IE in many issues - again from the forums a common complaint and now html coding and unable to even change front page articles are Ning wasting their time designing such utter cheap rubbish - maybe again we begin to see Ning more motivated by cheap money making ideas instead of the quality we once saw coming from releases.

    Ning you can do so much better - you used to - now i fear your going down the same road as many social networks - putting out cheap gimmicks that no one needs in order to make money and ignoring quality and focusing on what you have working.!!

    We have a membership of over 6500 and we are sick of having to apologise to our members for cheap sub standard delayed releases from Ning. Maybe your not professional but we are !!!!!!!!!!

    Breeze
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    In my opinion the gifts are completely ridiculous and only encourages the folks who post poor content to post even poorer content.
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  • The kids that run ning must really have their feelings hurt..
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  • the right price for gifts should be $0.02 pp

    compare this with

    $1.25 price for 1 song on itunes
    $0.50 average pay-per-click on Google ads
    $0.02 average pay-per-click on admob

    $1.5 for a crappy gif image (not even animated) is thus a TOTAL NONSENSE!

    Who is in charge of the business model @ Ning? lol
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