Why doesn't the DS work with WPA?!

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I'm not reverting back to WEP, but alas, if I don't, this will exclude my DS from Wifi.

So basically, WTF, get with the program Nintendo, and update that firmware!

Just FYI, I have an original DS. Does the Lite have WPA?
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John O'Day

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Talking about WiFi , I just upgraded my wireless to "N" and my Wii is still at B/G only gladly it supports WPA and WPA2.

As for the DS Lite, it only does WEP so far however you can use MAC address filtering with your WEP to make your wireless more secure.

I use the MAC address filtering for everything I own.
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My wii can connect to wpa wifi too.
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GraemeF

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There's no way I'm reverting to WEP. Sorry kids!
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ha, back to WEP encryption? i dont think so... >_<
ds wifi is cool, but to a certain extent. i hope they come out with a new update or something...
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No, the Lite does not support WPA, either. Nintendo has never released a firmware upgrade for the DS, so don't hold your breath.

You could buy the Nintendo WiFi Adapter - a USB dongle that acts as a WAP for your DS to connect to. That way you can leave WPA on and still use Nintendo WFC.
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No - then you have an insecure WAP allowing people to bypass the WPA security on your network. If you're going to do that you may as well just switch back to WEP on your main network.
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Actually, IIRC, the DS and Wii are the only allowed devices to connect to that WAP when using the Nintendo WiFi USB dongle.
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What is to stop someone from doing a passive sniffing attack on on the WEP connection and then driving up with thier own DS? No, the risk presented by ANY WEP AP is just not acceptable.
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Nintendo is going release a new ds called dsi on 4/5/09 that allows firmware updates.
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Will

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John your right nintendo is stupid. You have to revert back to almost the most basic of security to get on WiFi it's embarasing.
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peterd1998

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I have the same problem!! I am going to send an angry email to nintendo
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mmxbass

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The whole problem is resolved in the DSi and onward.
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Samantha Lam

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But only with new games so older games like Mario cart and pokemon still can't connect.
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FC360

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The problem has not been resolved with the DSi onwards, sure you can use the web browser and play online games downloaded via DSiware and use WPA but No DS games past present or future will support any security other then WEP.
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mphilipps

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Get with the program, Nintendo.
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nick

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i have the same prob
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mmxbass

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Seriously people need to forget about this. It's not ever happening. The DS Lite is now 2 models behind, soon to be 3.
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PtatozGunaPtate

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dummies buy a DSi or DSi XL or 3DS
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peterd1998

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i have a dsi, it still doesnt work on ds games
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norfolk-and-chance

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not everyone can afford to buy a separte frickin console just to get past a minor technical fault
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norfolk-and-chance

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not everyone can afford to buy a separte frickin console just to get past a minor technical fault
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Samantha Lam

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Even with trade in, it costs money, and you still need to get the dumb new games(which cost again- money!) to use WPA and WPA2 connections!
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Kaylee

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Samantha

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GOD-DAMN Nintendo. Seriously. I have a DS lite and wtf. WPA is more secure why the fuck is it not connectable. Fuck WEP. And now they discontinued the dongle. I actually have to buy a Dsi to use my router.
/rage
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Bonquisha Kings

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I will shank nintendo -.-
its must be done
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David Ngo

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Yeah fuck it I can't even play pokemon black 2 wifi on ds lite I don't want to have to buy new ds!! I agree we must revolt and protest for wpa capability for our damn wep only ds's the fuck thier thinking screw them we should protest violentlt to attain that goal
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Isn't there some way they could make games work with WPA? We have a new internet provider connecting all our devices to, and I got so mad trying to find a work around to connect, that I went out and bought my daughter a DSi XL. We got it to connect to the network, but even tho it connects to my WPA security it still does not connect games that support WEP. I have invested a lot of $$ into systems and games and pay a lot for my internet and would not like to use WEP and let hackers use my internet for free. I am just wondering if technically there could ever be a fix for this?
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I know how you feel, about everything there, since my dad is buying the new 3DS and we found out the news that DS games can't connect. :(
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Janet you can use wep on your router and make it more secure, for example using mac filtering might be a way of using wep and making your router more secure, the only problem with this is to connect more devices to your router you would have to know the devices mac code to allow it.
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Hi John,

I tried to connect my sons DS Lite to my WPA router, when I realised it was not possible I searched and found this inexpensive solution:

http://edwardv.livejournal.com/150121...

I had an old BT wireless router, I simply changed it to WEP and plugged its Ethernet cable into the spare Ethernet of my main D Link WPA router and it worked first time for me, I logged in with the DS Lite and got straight on line without compromising my home network security. I left a note to say thanks on the original post too, might be nice if it helps anyone else to leave the guy a note of thanks as well.

Sometimes the simplest solution is right under our noses, I hope this helps some of you, I know it's not an ideal solution to a problem that should not exist but I haven't found a better idea and it didn't cost me a penny either!

Kind regards

Atex31

http://www.autotechnix.co.uk
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Actually, this is a workable solution....given my moderate knowledge of networking.
I believe (and someone can feel free to correct me), it would require three routers/access points.
The idea would be to create an N or G (WPA2 or better) network for your PC on one Subnet. And an A/B (WEP) network for the the DS lite on a completely different Subnet. Each subnet would have access to the internet via the third router configured for both subnets.

Probably would use some best practices like not broadcasting SSID on the either network, turn off A/B network when not in use, limit to two or four users (in case of friends) on A/B network. Oh... and skip the MAC filtering which is nearly useless.

I would think the advantage is that a SNIFFER may be able to crack the WEP encoded network but not G or N network. So Internet access would be available to hackers... but only while DS Players are playing (and router is on). But serious damage like stealing your computer data or using your PC as a zombie server would not be possible.
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If we switched providers, do we have to connect to both now?
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Atex that actually does compromise your home network, you have basically got another router and set that up, why didn't you just set your modem/router to wep as what you have done is basically the same except you now have 2 network devices. People can still connect to the BT router and get internet access unless of course you unplug it when it's not in use.
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Hi FC360,
I have a separate firewall which keeps the WEP connection away from my WPA router with my online banking etc, also, because it's my sons DS Lite, I only switch the router on when he wants to go online which also means that I can keep an eye on the amount of time he uses it and what he accesses with it, I have unlimited internet usage so even if it did get hacked on WEP, it would not take me over the allowance and my WPA router with its own firewall will still be secure. I cannot see the sense in changing the other 10 devices in the house which are quite happily working with WPA to an outdated security protocol just so the DS Lite can go online twice a week.
I agree that it is ridiculous having 2 routers running, but I have 5 spare wireless routers anyway and hate to throw things away.
Atex31
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I just found out that my son's DS lite doesn't support WPA/WPA2. I won't revert my router to WEP, because WEP (Worthless Encryption Protocol) can be hacked in less than 10sec. Disappointed in Ninendo
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Quit using MAC address filtering as a vailid security measure. It takes seconds to crack WEP and then a few more seconds to sniff out a MAC address and spoof the intruding machine with that address. Not good people.

The only valid solution I have seen is the second router or access point that is only switched on when needed, just for god sake do not leave it turned on.
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Yes and no.
MAC filtering is better than nothing....especially for the casual stealer.
WEP is pathetic.
Not Broadcasting the SSID is probably a better solution
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lol when i realized that im not able to play online because we have wpa2, i tried to use the usb connector but my system doesnt support the fuckin thing because lazy ass nintendo made it useless because of their own lazyness, while theyre laughin at me and stealing my money
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FC360

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Why won't your system support it? Windows xp, Vista and 7 are all supported and I'm pretty sure macs do too
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The USB Connector is not supported in Windows 7, or in 64bit OSes. It was also Officially DISCONTINUED in the same month they came out with it, although they will still take your money for it, according to Wikipedia.
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wow, this is just great. Come on Nintendo!

Nintendo, keeping our country capitalist since 1889.
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damn. And I brought a new router just so I could connect to everything wifi... I mean DS like was released around the time Wii came out, but wii has WPA capabilities. why can't DS Lite have it too? its just stupid, and not user beneficial on Nintendo. Shame on you Nintendo.