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  • Regarding the Twitter API Call Limits

    Each time TweetMiner makes an API call to twitter it pulls in data from twitter and then serves it to the TweetMiner user. It's actually quite resource expensive due to processing power used and also because twitter doesn't compress their output. So for every 1k worth of tweets served out via TweetMiner 10k was consumed from Twitter.

    If you look at http://tweetminer.net/stats you can see that during the past 7 days approx 300MB's were consumed from twitter to serve approx 30MB to 233 users on TweetMiner

    The main issue, though, is CPU resource - for the past seven days 94477 processes were used of which 44953 were Twitter API calls (the most resource intensive process that TM uses).

    I can already calculate how much it will cost to support TweetMiner for X number of users based on the CPU resource used (Read API call to twitter)

    After carefully studying the stats I can see that the for the vast majority of TweetMiner users 250 calls per day (or thereabouts) would be more than enough to suite their needs. I feel fairly confident that I could scale it up to about 20,000 free users based on that level of resource usage.

    From the stats it looks like anyone who is going over 250 calls is using TweetMiner proper - ie as a real tool. All users (apart from 1) are under 1000 API calls per day. So it seems like a fair starting point for plan #1 @ $5 p/d.

    One user (the most active) is running about 2000 API calls per day and is posting about 300 scheduled messages a day. It seems fair that a user like that should be paying more than $5 because they are a power user. So the 1000 API calls limit on user level 1 semed like a good way to bump that type of user into band 2 ($10 per day). (and it ties directly to MY costs, because API resource usage is my biggest cost).

    Then finally I added a 10,000 API calls a day price band for absolute power users. I should point out that 10,000 API calls a day is a lot of CPU usage!

    FYI - The reason why API calls translates to cost for me is because as CPU usage grows I will need to spend more per month on more powerful servers to deal with X number of processes per day.
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  • I’m thankful for the explanation.
    Thanks for explaining it, as well as what most users are doing w/ it. I had only taken into account Twitter's own limit, not the CPU usage per request, etc.

    And I've worked with Twitter's API on several projects - they give you a LOT of information.
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  • We've lost the link to your original proposed bands, Justin. Can you post it here? (If it isn't already and we are being link blind.)
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  • Ok, your explanations of API call costs and monitored usage by existing users are good. We were pondering whether starting charging at 2 Twitter accounts might be off-putting for a majority, but see that from your stats that the average number of accounts is only 1.3. Do you feel that the multiple Twitter account holders are running multiple 'pro' accounts or managing both pro and personal accounts together? This is our case, and it would exclude a paid option almost regardless of price. Hopefully this isn't true for a majority. So, what do we think? Go for it, free account holders will see the benefits afforded by upgrading, either in increased API calls or the addition of Twitter accounts. The price points seem fair.
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  • Justin - Now that you've added the API calls & I've seen the new pricing structure it seems fair to me too. Obviously a key factor being that as a "Max" user we can schedule multiple rolling schedules simultaneously without having to logout/login to switch between accounts. *I'd also like to see an Adobe Air app vs. Fluid to remove the buggy "embedded" browser windows.

    With Air (desktop) and a few other things resolved ...count me in as a "Max" subscriber based on current price points.
    • Hi there - I know yo are "born busy" - but would you be so kind and enlighten me why you would need a MAX account? I suppose you need it a because of the mutliple account feature - as I personally cannot imagine how I would post some 2000 messages a day? I am interested as I my strategy is to customize some of the messages before pushing them in the rolling schedule - which is time consuming but promises a better return from followers. just curious... thanks.
    • Darcy signed up for the Max account (below) and he gets great use out of it managing about 14 accounts! :)
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  • I’m happy!
    Interesting stats. Thanks for sharing and explaining.

    I just signed up for "Max" although a week or so ago, on a previous post, I voted for "everything is free on the internet"! So... Good work, Justin. I'm hooked!
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  • I’m puzzled
    Just a question -- I've only been using for a few days but I've gone over the free limit already! Two questions:
    1) At what time of day is the API counter reset
    2) Any tips on how to reduce one's API usage? I have only 2 Twitter accounts, so I'm guessing I'm eating up APIs with who I follow...can I remove my main stream from being shown (i.e., the tweets of all my followers)? I can watch that using another tool...

    P.S.--I'm not at all opposed to paying; this is a great tool and I figured I'd hit some limits once I figured out how to use all the features...just not this soon! (I haven't even tried RSS or Friend Finder yet!)
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  • What limit did you reach was it the API limit or the scheduled message limit? Also what is your TM login? I just want to have a look behind the scenes to see if any funny business is going on. :)
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  • I’m feeling well taken care of, thanks Justin!
    It was definitely the API limit. My login is terriz...thanks for looking into this!

    BTW, just a clarification on the scheduled message limit...does that apply to rolling items too? I just noticed that the free option is limited to 150 scheduled/month (when I looked at this I saw the Budget Yearly option was 150/day and glanced at the free option, saw the 150, and my brain must have assumed 150/day for that option too!)
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  • Hi,

    Re: Schedule: Yes it applies to rolling and time specific.

    Re: the API limit. please can you send me an email to support@tweetminer.net exactly when you start to see the api limit screen again.

    I need to be able to see what your seeing so I can test it!

    Thx :)
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  • Will do. I notice that I've been logged into Tweetminer for just a couple of hours, looked at and retweeted just a few tweets, and my API remaining is already down to ~750.

    I'll probably need to upgrade soon anyway because I will hit the rolling schedule limit...
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  • I see you have 3 streams with an auto refresh rate of 2 mins each... that adds up to 90 API calls per hour right there.... how about changing one or more to 5 mins per poll? If all 3 were on 5 mins it would add up to 36 API calls per hour rather than 90.

    Of course after upgrading to $10 Premium monthly there's a lot more to play with ;)

    But for the moment the answer is to space out the auto check for messages option.

    Hope this helps!
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  • I’m enlightened
    ah! Yes, of course, why didn't I think of that
    beginner's fumbling ;)
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  • another newbie question -- what happens if you don't check the "every" box? does it then only retrieve new tweets when you click on that stream?
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