Flash? Feh. Need HTML5 support.

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Any plans to deliver a version that uses HTML5?
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Peter Halacsy, co-founder & CTO

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Dear RBLevin,

no we don't have any plan about HTML5 right now. Why do you think it's important?

peter
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Hi Peter. I'd argue that HTML5/CSS/JavaScript is the future and Flash is the past. Also, it's an open standards vs. proprietary argument. And the fact that Prezi is not impressive on the iPad and other devices that don't do Flash well or at all would be yet another. I think you have a great concept with the product. But as a developer myself, given the choice between proprietary and open, all other things being roughly equal (CPU load, capabilities), I'd go for the open standards.
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Peter Halacsy, co-founder & CTO

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Thanks RBLevin, we consider this argument. I agree that being open can be advantage. There are other dimensions as well.

Do you really think that html5 version of prezi would be better on ipad? Have you tried? I think it would be less impressive.
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I haven't tried the iPad version, but several of our people have, and they say it loses the animation. The real issue is, what is the broader platform for the presentation layer of SaaS/cloud apps? I would argue it is AJAX, not Flash. Given HTML5's capabilities, I'd opt for AJAX. Plus, makes you more attractive to Google. ;-) I can see Prezi in Google Docs, but not as a Flash app.
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Peter Halacsy, co-founder & CTO

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Dear RBLevin,

we always try to choose that technology which is most useful to our users, the prezi authors. Google acquisition is not the primary goal. Helping people to communicate better is the primary.

I agree with you. I would like to see AJAX/HTML5/CSS3 to be able to render prezis. But for example webkit on ipad is not so stable. But standard :)

Thanks for interesting for prezi technology.

peter
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Hi Peter,

I am going to append several links to web pages which may help provide some additional insight of where the online world (internet -infrastructure/network + WWW -software) is migrating to, due to major paradigm shift into the post-PC world.. due to the introduction of the iPhone in 2007 by Apple and ushering in the Apple ecosystem. These links will provide a perspective of why HTML 4.0 & Flash is going to be replaced by HTML 5.0. As previously posted here, Adobe is no longer developing Flash for the mobile platform!! In early November 2011 Adobe announced that it will discontinue development of Flash for mobile devices and reorient its efforts in developing tools utilizing HTML 5. The future is going to be on mobile devices (smart phones, tablets, etc..) for which Adobe Flash was NOT developed. As Roger McNamee (a noted Venture Capitalist) states, "Online content has depended on Adobe Flash for video and animation for more than a decade, but the limits of Flash are significant, especially in mobile. It was never designed for today’s mobile use cases, much less the ones that are coming. Each instance of Flash on a webpage increases load times and instability. In mobile, the overhead is so great that that live video experience on 3G networks is exceptionally lame. HTML 5 incorporates the functionality of Flash into the HTML standard. In mobile, the overhead is tiny in comparison to Flash. But that’s just the beginning. As the tool set gets fleshed out, HTML 5 will transform the creation and presentation of content. HTML 5 will be a creative canvas unlike any in the past history of technology".

Mr. McNamee has introduced the concept of the "Next" Web Architecture... Hypernet (Wired Internet + Mobile Data Infrastructure-cellular 3G/4G + WiFi) & the Hyperweb. "More precisely, the Hyperweb is the new user experiences enabled by a world of billions of nodes connected to millions of clouds. Another key aspect to the Hyperweb is our belief that HTML5 will be a fundamentally important building block". Hyperlinking..."In the “simple” web experience, linked web pages are viewed via browsers primarily on Windows computers and are indexed by Google. The hyperweb broadens our definition of linking. A whole new set of instrumented smart nodes interact with a rich variety of connected clouds, apps, and services which can be hosted, local, or hybrid in terms of where they reside."

Anyway, the below links will provide a little more granularity on the above concepts and why the future content of the web will be based upon HTML 5.

Who is Roger McNamee:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Mc...

Roger McNamee & Mike Maple's Blog (discussing the changing architecture of the online world):
http://rogerandmike.com/

Moon Alice (an example of HTML5 web page content):
Experience it on your mobile wirelessly connected (3G/4G) device!

http://www.moonalice.com

"I spent six months trying to convince entrepreneurs and investors that HTML 5 will change the world before I realized that my message was not getting through. So I spent the past year developing and deploying HTML 5 functionality on behalf of my band, Moonalice. One of our HTML 5 tools enables live HD video over 3G cellular with no buffer. Another enables fans of Moonalice to listen to any of 400 shows. Both applications are live on http://www.moonalice.com, but they only work on iOS. Why? Android does not have a standard HTML 5 implementation. Most people at Google don’t know that". -Roger McNamee

Oh btw, Google has now announced that beginning with Android OS 5.0 Google, like Apple, will no longer support Adobe Flash!!

HTML5:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5

Thanks for your time and attention, I hope this post will help provide some insight & enlighten you and Prezi regarding the future of the online world and how HTML5 will play a pivotal role.

-Doug Schwegel
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Six months down the road, with HTML5 firmly establishing itself as a de fact standard, and the iPad having no viable contestants at least until 2015 (according to a Gartner report published this week), I believe that this issue is now paramount.

Please, Prezi, pretty please with sugar on top: support HTML5 as soon as possible.

Ruy
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Also, HTML5 can support offline-caching of server-sided data, a big possibility to replace the download feature of prezis.

additionally, Adobe is finally shutting down their flash support for mobile devices.

That means soon Android-Tablets will follow the iPad-philosophy of "Thou shalt have no other plugin-developers before me!"

I really like prezi... it ́s possible the best way of creating presentations ever invented. But Flash just keeps killing the fun.
Webkit gets more stable with time, Flash is "old" and will not be further developed, even on desktop computers.

Of course, porting prezi to HTML5 takes time, but it should be worth it I guess.
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Peter Halacsy said:

"we always try to choose that technology which is most useful to our users, the prezi authors. Google acquisition is not the primary goal. Helping people to communicate better is the primary."

Hi Peter. Can you honestly state that today Flash is "that technology which is most useful to our users." How about applying the Greyzky principle and skating where the puck will be: is Flash going to be "that technology which is most useful to our users" in six months or one year?

I wouldn't say that choosing Flash some three or four years ago was a bad choice. Not by a mile, mind you. But choosing to hang on solely to Flash nowadays is a mistake. Last year we had no tablets in my (small) company, and today we have five; three of these being iPads.

I love Prezi and use it as much as I can. but spending some hours creating and tweaking small flash animations so to give it a bit more dynamism, just to see those aminations become static images on my iPad is something that makes me very frustrated, and pushes me to find other more flexible alternatives.

I wish you guys could see that.

christopher.kaag said:

"Of course, porting prezi to HTML5 takes time, but it should be worth it I guess."

Amen to that, brutha.
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Can Prezi provide an export of the .swf file that results from designing in Prezi? If so, then Swiffy (http://www.google.com/doubleclick/stu...) could be used to convert Prezi presentations to HTML5. I teach Multimedia Design. I love Prezi, but Flash, as an output format, is never going to take hold. Impress.js, or a similar technology, will bypass Prezi as CSS3 is fully implemented in browsers.

My wish list for Prezi

* Export to HTML5 (canvas), CSS, Javascript
* Interactivity
* Be able to create multiple independent paths and save them as states
* Be able to create actions, based on those states, which can be executed by creating links to existing graphics
* Be able to create actions that can move along a state automatically controlling speed, duration, and easing
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"Google acquisition is not the primary goal." You have a /stunningly/ ignorant understanding of how the web works.
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my guess is a large proportion of Prezi users (10, million and counting) i would say prezi have a pretty good understanding of how the web works. Most ppl don't even really know what Html5 is..ppl want to work on ipad. it does a reasonable job..if anyone is unhappy stop using an ipad and use a pc. simple eh. just my humble opinion.
if you want to go and tinker with prezi style preso in html5 try
http://shama.github.com/jmpress.js/#/...
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Peter Halacsy, do you plan to change your choice ? And may we know why ?

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