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The story is what I want them to remember.
The drawing sequence is helping them to remember it.
They remember the final image much better when they see it being build up.
The zooming features of Prezi help big way to focus on, and to get an understanding of parts of the whole. But seeing the whole picture being build up, is what makes them remember it.
This building up of the mental image can not be done by zooming around.
For this reason, I would be very obliged if you would consider to incorporate 'Appearing Objects' in Prezi. It might be done in the following way:
- In the details of a 'path element' you may define objects to appear one by one, in intervals like the path timing intervals.
- The order in which the objects appear, may be defined in a similar way as defining a path is done right now. (perhaps using different coloring, or dotted lines)
- You can access to this feature when you are defining or viewing a path. Whenever an frame is used as a path element and this 'path element' is clicked, a control appears to help you set the order and timing of elements in the current frame.
- 'Path elements' may be in the path twice. When a path element is shown for the second time, all elements are visible. (the audience has already seen them anyway, or alternatively, when designing the presentation, you may create another instance of the 'appearing image')
- Objects are all types of objects that are there (text, lines, images, movies)
- Objects that are not assigned to appear in a certain order, will be visible right away.
Keep up the good work
Thanks a lot for this idea. I will forward it to our design team.
very good points, thank you - and I totally agree with you, experiencing how ideas develop helps tremendously!
We have something cooking about this now - you'll see a release in the coming days about changing themes within a Prezi. We used a transition effect there, which will serve as a technological ground for 'revealing' steps in the path.
We'll post prototypes once they are working, and would be fantastic to get your feedback, or even an example prezi with that
Thanks for considering the idea,
I'll come up with a example of what I would like to do with it.
this could be done with parameters in the path: frame is either visible from begining of presentation or appears when this step in the path is reached.
as LLinx said, it would be great to add information on top of an existing image/scheme
timing can be another parameter of the step
I really hope you will be able to implement it soon (it will be sorely needed in a not too distant future).
on a more technical note:
to make these "reveals" of objects visually stand out among normal steps in a presentation you could simply give them a different colour coding (e.g. orange path segment instead of blue one). I also would suggest to give them a different kind of numbering, like float numbers. so a "reveal" of an object within frame 2 would be labeled 2.1 in the path. the next "reveal" within the same frame hence 2.2
a reveal in the next (the third) frame would be labeled 3.1 ...
does that make sense?
It would be really helpful for us to understand how you'd like to use this feature. Do you have an example prezi or a story you could show?
Zooming is great, really powerful.
it helps very much in understanding the relative position of the elements, to pu them in perspective. just super.
Zooming is visually too powerful to use all the time.
I would not use it more than 10 to 15 in a presentation. That means I ask the audience to change perspective 10 to 15 times. That is already quite a lot.
an example: (of one part of the presentation, one perspective)
1/ suppose I want to show a graph.
2/ then point out the main points
3/ then add a second graph
4/ finally point out a similarity between the two
Zooming would only confuse people here.
I need the axes of the graph as a stable reference for my audience, when 2/, 3/ and 4/ to appear, while I tell the story.
It is not only with graphs, but almost any drawing is much better understood when it is introduced step by step. Now you get at least some attention for each part of the story.
Huugs example is a good one and there are literally thousands of other examples where a object manipulation is important. For example-I want to show a time progression where as i talk more of the object is revealed - this is simple if i can manipulate objects on within the flow but impossible currently.
I agree with Ian that after a year of asking you should have the basic idea now - it might be better to either do it or not... or perhaps post your idea of how the feature will work for comment/discussion?
This will probably disappoint you but we have a policy of not commenting what we are working on that I intend to keep.
Firstly, it is often impossible to know the quality of a solution until it is ready. Our iPad app was the 3rd attempt at making it good. The first two could not handle the zooming nature of Prezi only the 3rd could. Even so, we still had to work hard to fix unexpected memory leaks in the iPad after the launch.
Secondly, technical development is very hard to predict. Infinite amount of literature is spent on describing how companies can/should organize their product development but the truth is that no company can reliably predict projects that usually last several months.
So rather then speculating on possible future events we focus on the good news upon releasing a new feature.
This creates dilemma: we like to staying in touch with our community at the same time as you get frustrated when we don't comment on future developments. On the other hand, making promises that we could not keep (regardless of if it is our or other technologies' fault) would only get you more disappointed.
This is the reason behind the policy.
Finally let me tell you about our guiding goal. Everyone at Prezi is working to help people share ideas. We also believe that idea sharing is not limited to particular technologies or platforms. Whether we're working on animations at moment or not I cannot comment, but let me assure you we're working very hard to deliver new features and there are more coming your way!
its good news, that you are working on new features. And I do understand that a company has to stick to its information policy.
It is difficult though for us users to keep voicing ideas and suggestions - without any information whether you guys are actually using them. Especially when some of the suggestions, like the one in this thread, have been asked for for more than a year.
Maybe it would be a good idea for the prezi team to publish some kind of road-map, so we can see what you are working on. no need for any publishing dates. just nowing if our wishes are being addressed would be very comforting.
Let's imaging that when you edit, create the path, you get some alternatives (beyond zooming, the default we have today)
- Zoom to next path point
- Fade to next path point
- Reveal object under next path point without zooming
- Hide object under next path point without zooming
So any object, that has a path point 'reveal' on them would not be visible when you start showing the prezi, only after you got there.
I feel that a mixture of zooming and revealing might be quite useful - like the example of the graph above, you reveal the 2nd graph, than you zoom into where they cross, zoom out again to show the axis, reveal a 3rd graph without zooming.
(reveal would probably mean something like 3 sec fade. no swirl, no movement, etc)
what do you think? would this be good for the situations you describe?
I allways thought of zooms and reveal as two different things. But your way of regarding a zoom or a fade or a reveal as equal actions along a path... thats a really great way of thinking about it.
It keeps things very simple!
One could even imagine indicating which option has been asigned to a path-point (eihter by colour or style).
One thing bugs me though: what if I want to reveal and zoom at the same time?
Or what if I want to reveal several objects at the same time?
I can think of two ways to achieve this:
1. You can link certain path-points to each other. So you create the zoom-point first. Then you create one or several reveal-points. And finally you drag these reveal-points onto the zoom-point (they arrange themselves around the zoom-point in a circular fashion).
2. You can define whether a path-point is triggered by pressing a button, automatically after the last path-point or automatically with the last path-point.
In order to change the settings of a path-point, you could press and hold the left mouse-button on creation/edditing to bring up a context menu where you can define the path-points behavior (when it is triggered and what kind of animation it is).
what do you think?
Your idea is very interesting, Very elegant in design mode. I can't see all the implications yet, but it sounds like the right way to do it.
I agree with plot-paris that usually you want to show some initial stuff (eg.: the title of the graph and the axes).
Also, you may want to reveal more than one element at the same time (eg: a graph, a comment on that graph and an arrow)
Some way of grouping path-points would solve that I guess.
(But I would be still be happy without them. I can do a few extra clicks during a presentation, to have the same effect)
- Just revealing the object (fading in) is perfect for what I need.
- Being able to set the transition-time would be appreciated
- I would leave out all the other transitions; I would not use them. (box in, checkerboard, fly in, swirl, etc. etc.). They are only distracting.
- When zooming manually (panning by dragging the mouse) to the area, would show all the content.
(really useful during a presentation - immediate overview of has been shown before)
- When clicking on an element would do the same as going there using the path. So now some content might still be hidden. clicking will resume the path.
(also very useful - explain it again, even when you have shown it before)
- clicking on an element that is set as: 'reveal without zooming' would use the zooming settings of the previous path-point (recursive: the last zooming setting that can be used in the path) and reveal all the path-point up to the one that was clicked.
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