Embed Prezi in PowerPoint

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I have a traditional PowerPoint that I'd like to add some flare too. In fact what I would like to do is have my Prezi presentation act as a presentation within a presentation. Problem is, unlike video files and even native flash files, there seems to be no way to embed Prezi into PPT. If you download your presentation locally, you get an .exe file, which is problematic. If you link to the website, it's not "ready to go" you have to load it first. So having a Prezi plug-in or finding a way to make it embeddable as an object would be nice. Also like a video/flash, it would be best if the Prezi presentation did not have to open in another window.

Also I don't see a way to do the reverse of this, i.e. embed a PPT into Prezi.

Greg

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Adam [founder], founder

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Dear Gruth,

it is possible the other way around!
simply save your PPT as PDF (there are many free PDF 'printers') and upload that. this should work just fine, unless you have videos in your PPT.

if you do have videos, you would need to upload them separately in FLV format...

we will simplify all this in the future of course
and look into how to create prezi that can be embedded into ppt

you can probably link the exe from ppt, but of course that will change windows, etc, not so smooth

Jason Davis

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Agreed!

I did a presentation a week ago and woke up a sleeping audience with a prezi.exe smack in the middle of 10 slide powerpoint. I had to link to the prezi from powerpoint and switching to it from the powerpoint slide was awkward (e.g. getting the prezi in fullscreen mode from powerpoint in fullscreen mode).

Afterwards, everyone asked me for a copy of the presentation which I zipped up and distributed.

Since then I've become tech support to everyone trying to run both the powerpoint and the prezi.exe since its not obvious to them:

- why I'm sending a zip rather than a PPT file
- that they are separate files and have to manage fullscreen play separately

Adam... My birthday was yesterday and I didn't ask anyone for anything, so I'm using my birthday wish to ask you - Please make it so we can download our prezis as a single swf, then we can embed in PPT.

martin graham

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this was great - i just solved my problem with you reply - thanks now i can give my POD clients ppt with info they update with prezi for dynamic presentation of process that is context autonomous - thanks matey

Adam [founder], founder

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Hehe Happy Birthday Jason

well, we have SWF format a couple of months ago, but local flash player security policy required you to allow the folder containing Prezi in flash settings as a safe folder - practically impossible to send and share.

we should look into this again, or rather do a proper PPT export?

Nikanor

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PPT and PDF export, please!

Diego Berho

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Yes, or at least in order to do handouts!

linfreeman

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This is an excellent idea. Hopefully, since 11 months have passed, some progress has been made? I would really like to be able to load a prezi into powerpoint.

Greg

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I'd be interested to know whether the development team is pursuing this or not. No pressure though.

linfreeman

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Yeah, pressure!

Peter Halacsy, co-founder & CTO

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Greg,

I would rather implement PPT features in prezi. I hope this is a more exciting way.

peter
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Greg

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Of course you would! LOL!

I'm just suggesting that the reality is that PowerPoint isn't going away and some of us (for lots of different reasons) will continue to use it. As much as I love Prezi, I just don't see it ever becoming a standard Presentaiton tool like PowerPoint (Not saying I couldn't be wrong).

Still, in today's reality I think Prezi's market share could only be better if it had some kind of two-way relationship with PowerPoint. PowerPoint within Prezi and a PowerPoint plugin so you can use Prezi as part of a PPT.

linfreeman

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peter halacsy,
If you're going to incorporate features, please take them from Apple's keynote. Keynote has much better features than powerpoint. And, like prezi, it is easier to learn. In fact, even the open office program, presentation, has better features than powerpoint.
Lin Freeman

Greg

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linfreeman. That wasn't the point of this thread. No one (again, in this thread at least) is suggesting that Peter and the Prezi crew "take" features from PowerPoint or any other presentation tool. The request was for Prezi to build a plugin so you can use it with PowerPoint (in a similar manner as one would insert an object like a spreadsheet in PowerPoint). This could also be done with Keynote and Presentation. If the Prezi team were interested in going this route. Peter suggests that they are not. I think that is unfortunate

greg.j.lundberg

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Actually, once you get past Keynote's graphic quality -- which is exceptional -- you'll find it to be rather limited compared to PowerPoint. My main gripes are that it doesn't give you much control over charts and doesn't allow layered animations. And because Apple took on Adobe, Keynote has effectively been shut out of the e-learning space.

hephistocles

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I would like to suggest that the export of a packaged swf be looked into again. My problem with .exe is that a lot of draconian network systems do not allow unrecognised exes to be run, and so I could not run my prezi everywhere. A swf can, however, be embedded in a powerpoint amongst other things, and is generally a bit more versatile than the .exe. I recognise that you mentioned a while ago that there were issues with security, which may present a significant obstacle. Nonetheless, I feel exploring this avenue would be worthwhile, if only due to the versatility of a raw .swf - it could be run on many more operating systems, including some mobile devices.

jody.hirst

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yepper, powerpoint is the standard in our company. each month our progress review presentation dedicates a couple slides to each engineer. Imagine how cool it would be to embed prezi in my slides.... i could thumb my coolness at my fellows! :-)

Amy Webb

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Please enable me to export my Prezi project into Keynote. I'd buy the full version and tell everyone else to as well, but as it stands, without being able to export into my presentation file, I'm not going to be able to use this. I'd guess that many people are in the same boat -- we have to use either PowerPoint or Keynote and don't want to (or can't) give up those tools to use Prezi exclusively. Thanks.

Peter Halacsy, co-founder & CTO

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Amy,

how about the other direction: embedding keynote to a prezi? Why do you have to use either powerpoint or keynote?

peter
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Greg

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Peter, honestly you're starting to sound more like a Microsoft Executive (i know, low blow eh?) than a free spirited entrepreneur. Keynote and PowerPoint may be Prezi's competition, but their users are not. They are your potential client base (and indeed some of them, such as myself, Jody, Amy, Tom and hephistocles, are already Prezi clients). Yes Prezi should allow you to embed Keynote or PPT into it, but the reverse must also be true. You lose nothing, in fact you'll gain a lot of happy users (new and existing).

Jeff Vyduna

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We make a Flash-based application which plugs into PowerPoint (as well as SlideRocket, 280North - we even figured out Keynote). We have a ton of requests on our GS to integrate with Prezi.

The reason we would never say "No - why not import your Prezi into [our app]?" is because Prezi is a superset of our use cases. It wouldn't be natural. Unfortunately, PowerPoint is a superset of Prezi use cases (except for one critical experience - zooming presentation layout). I just think you're missing a big way to spread the awesomeness of Prezi.

greg.j.lundberg

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I agree, Prezi's capability is very specialised.. well suited for a plugin. It's a lot harder to convince someone to use Prezi than it is to say look what we can do in PowerPoint.

Tom Holland

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Hi Peter, I'm sure you're aware that currently Powerpoint and Keynote dominate wheras Prezi is a pioneer of cool presentations. The problem is that after watching a presentation one hopes that all those students, clients and potential customers will want a digital copy so they can read it at their own pace when they're travelling home. Unfortuinately people don't like opening unfamiliar files on their laptops but we could avoid this issue if a prezi worked like a plugin for powerpoint or keynote. Soon enough your company will benefit from more people gaining exposure to Prezi and demanding it in every presentation and eventually all presentations will be Prezi's.

Greg

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I'll second this. Peter no one is suggesting that Prezi become a part of PowerPoint or Keynote. We just want the plug-in. It takes nothing from Prezi and indeed I believe Tom is right, it would only increase your exposure and market share.

Tom Holland

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I'm interested to know why it's NOT good business sense to enable Prezi's pluginability into Keynote / Powerpoint. As a suppler of video content for marketing Ludites who will only use .wmv files in powerpoint I can't see my clients readily adopting the full Prezi way of life since they shudder when I mention the words 'Apple' & 'Mac' and you can imagine the reaction I when I suggest they switch to using a superior quality h.264 Quicktime video file!
However, If I could show them how easy it is to load a Prezi into their existing software (or better still pay me to create and insert the prezi) then I forsee a rip roaring trade in Prezi subscriptions coming via my video production company UtmostMedia.co.uk...
Tom

PS: Jeff, I'm interested to find out more about the powerpoint flash app you created, what's your URL?

Jeff Vyduna

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Hi Tom - I didn't mean to be promoting our service on this forum, but since we don't compete with Prezi, it's PollEverywhere.com, and we do live audience participation on slides (voting/graphs, sms/twitter text walls).

Not to speak for them, but Prezi might have some legitimate business reasons to not want this. For one, it might feel like a compromise of their brand image or company values. If they believe they're slaying linear presentations and PPT is the enemy, maybe they don't want to be seen as a "part" or "toy" in a "real" presentation (though I think of it more as a Trojan Horse!). Hence the offer to import PPT content into Prezi.

Also, there's lots of compatibility wars case studies (e.g. Mac/Win file compatibility, Word/PDF cross editing and export, CBS vs RCA color TV) where generally, the accepted winning strategy is to be backwards compatible with your competitor and allow easy import, but not vice versa. Recent examples (Google docs) are counter, and it's a longer discussion but I believe Prezi is very different for the "subset" reason I stated above. I hope they make peace with the fact that I want them to remain a subset - simplicity is good.

They'll just have to balance it against the fact that clearly their customers are begging for it, and there's no doubt it would get Prezi in front of more eyes and stimulate more "What the heck was THAT!!!" conversations.

Amy Webb

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Here's my bottom line: Prezi doesn't do everything I need it to. My company meets with our clients in what can sometimes be four-hour sessions. And my staff regularly speaks at conferences worldwide. Our work requires the use of Keynote and/or PPT.

While we'd love to use Prezi for part of our presentations, it's just not practical to use for everything. I'm sure that you must understand that. We'd like to be able to use Prezi for an intro discussion on trends, for example, before we get to all the requisite charts and graphs and other files. In addition, Prezi won't work with much of the additional software that's required of our presentations (webinar tools, recording tools, etc).

We'd love to be able to use Prezi in short spurts for part of our presentations, and I'd imagine that others feel the same way. If it can't be exported and used inside of Keynote or PPT, or if it can't be made into a plugin for both Keynote and PPT, I'm afraid we're not going to be able to use it. That's a shame, because you'll miss out on a very large potential enterprise audience who would've gladly paid for the service.

linfreeman

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I'm a professor and Ive used slide oriented programs for years (power point, open office's presentation and mac's keynote). They all have features I need in giving lectures and presentations at meetings. In particular, I use the feature that allows me to builu up or reduce images while appearing to stay on the same slide. I like prezi, particularly the zoom and slew features that are not available on slide oriented systems, but, using i8t, I find that I really miss the features of the other systems. Like Amy, I would like to see a presentation system that would allow me to draw on the features of both of these systems.

Jeff Vyduna

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I think it's worth mentioning to everyone who follows this thread that for Prezi to make Prezis work in PowerPoint is possible and quite easy.

Putting a Prezi in a Keynote is not possible at all or for the foreseeable future. It's an Apple technical problem, not Prezi's. Keynote doesn't support embedding the right kind of SWF files.

Adam and Peter - we invented a technique of server-side PPT and PPTX generation with embedded ActiveX Flash objects that reference online SWF assets. There are no sandbox security issues. Please email jeff@polleverywhere.com if interested. Our Keynote technique is non-flash based and probably doesn't offer anything useful for you.

Peter Halacsy, co-founder & CTO

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Dear Prezi Authors,

we'll consider embedding prezi into ppt (but not into keynote as Jeff pointed out) carefully and continue listing to input. Unfortunately this project takes more time than a weekend :) I agree with you data export/import, embedding is a very important feature.

I asked you about the value of PPT, because I wanted to learn about your requirements. Yes, I would like prezi to be real competitor of PPT and I know: now some features are missing.

So Tom mentioned: wmv support.
Linfreeman pointed out with ppt it's possible 'to build up or reduce images while appearing to stay on the same slide.'

peter

Greg

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Thanks Peter. I think this is what we all wanted to hear and no one expects you to get it down overnight (or over the weekend). Also, I could give a rats behind about Keynote. I'm not down with the hypocrisy of Apple when it comes to their coding (though I do like their laptops).

holloway.richard

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I'd love to use Prezi for a job interview presentation I need to give in a week's time. However when I realised its download version is a exe file I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to use it to present. The company I'm going for a job with has a very locked down IT policy and there is no way an exe is going run on their system and I can't guarantee internet access. I'll be left looking like an idiot with no presentation.

This is why I would be very interested in exporting it to a PPT file. It's not so I can use powerpoint. It's so I can ensure my presentation will definitely work when I get there.

Jonathan Lyon

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In the time taken to talk about this it could have been built as an alpha version, put out in the wild or to a closed user group, finessed by the feedback from hungry, demanding, caring users who want you to be better at what you do so you can help others be better at what they do. As Nike says, Just Do It. Honestly get on with it and you'll be surprised at the results

linfreeman

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I just returned from the University of Manchester where I was the keynote speaker at the 6th annual UK social network conference and the launch of the Mitchell Centre for Social Network Analysis. About 120 individuals from all over the world attended and I gave my talk using Prezi. It went over well enough that at least 30 people asked how I achieved the effects I used. So I was able to spread the word.

I could have done a better job, however, if, at the same time, I could have had access to some of the tools contained in power point. Is any progress being made?

d

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I am also curious as to the progress on this project.

I would like to point out that in order for Prezi to become the next wave in presentation technology, you will have to conquer the enterprise / corporate market. That market is locked into using PPT for at least the foreseeable future - in some cases, because PPT is actually just better, but in other cases due to corporate policies and the like.

Please, for the sake of this great technology, find a way to hook corporates by 'hijacking' their existing PPT installations. Maybe the best way to do this is to create a PPT plugin. The bottom line is that only reason I can't use Prezi in my work environment is because I can't also use PPT at the same time - and that's a real pity for me, and for this great product.

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