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Comment box attached to rating

Hey Nick, it's Sly.
I'm not sure if you'll take to this idea because part of me believes you have rating the way it is for a reason. Nevertheless, I was wondering if you'd consider something.
I've been rated about thirty times lately on stories I've written but no one's commented, so I have no idea (aside from the most likely 'personal preference') what drove the rater to rate that specific number.
I was wondering if you could add a text box to rating, so that people are (not forced, but) encouraged to write WHY they are rating a specific number.
It could have the option to remain anonymous, or the author can choose to claim the comment. I think that if you had a text box that said "Explain why you chose this rating" It would make people think a bit more before posting a rating and be a bit more constructive.
Thx.
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  • EMPLOYEE
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    While we don't have anonymous commenting right now (and I don't know that I'd want to add it), adding an *optional* comment popup of some kind if you add a negative review might be useful.

    I don't know that I'd make it show up in all ratings, as someone posting a glowing review would probably be more inclined to comment on their own, anyhow. And having a popup for commenting in that case could be annoying to the raters.

    Maybe with some helpful text saying "You didn't think too highly of this chapter/branch, would you mind letting the author know why?", or something along those lines.

    I do agree with the general consensus that getting overly negative (or positive) reviews without verbal feedback is a bit annoying, but I think the main problem is that some people will just trash other authors with very low reviews because they're mean-spirited. And sadly, adding optional commenting is 99% certain not to change anything there -- they just won't comment.

    I'll think about it a bit and see what I can come up with, though. It's still a work in progress, and I've already refined it a couple of times over the last few months. It seems to be improving steadily, either way.
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  • I agree - this has always been a sore point. I'd like to wonder, is it possible, at least to identify within "notifications" which story was rated? Rather than "One of your posts was rated a 3", could the system specify?
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  • Okay, that ratings count in the homepage notifications box is totally unrelated to this suggestion. Please create another issue for it before I lose track. :)
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  • I’m confident that this idea will benefit everyone.
    I personally think that this is a good idea. And I agree Nick, people won't comment. So that's why I think that if they rate a story 2.5 or lower, or something along those lines, then they have to comment or else it won't be counted. I know that sounds drastic, but I've had situations where no one will tell me what I did wrong. And those mean spirited people can really make younger writers feel discouraged.

    Or, another idea...you could create a system where the rating system and the comment system are the same. If they want to rate the story, they have to comment. Not like a pop up message that tells you to write a comment, but in the comment box, at the bottom, there's a rating that you give. See where I'm going with this? That way hate raters, and people that just give everyone good rates will be conquered and defeated, without feeling cheated.
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  • Hey nick, it's Sly again.

    With Anthony Nelson adding to this thread, it's reminded me of my request. I know it's been two years, and you've put your whole heart into this site. I'm very pleased with the way things are improving and the features you've been adding. Your dedication is exemplary.

    I'd like to suggest a slightly altered version of my original idea.

    I've recieved a few ratings across my stories lately that I know are being posted by a specific author who's upset with the way I've criticized his work.

    When he first came on the site he asked me to post a serious critique of his work, and I obliged him.

    I rated him according to the value of his work, which was poor, but not un-salvageable. I gave him tips and the best advice I could offer to him and reminded him that I would change my rating of his work if he corrected the errors in his posts.

    He messaged me a "thank you" and requested that I continue to critique his work. I thought I had actually reached him on a professional level and that he'd accepted my critique with maturity and tact.

    I was wrong.

    Since then every time I post a critique and rate this particular authors posts, I discover that, whichever of my pages is my most recent at the time, has been anonymously rated with the same marks as the rating I gave this author, which is often 4.00 or 3.5

    With my little story at a close, I'd like to request, if at all possible, that ratings no longer be anonymous. I know that, without the guise of anonymity, this author, and others like him, would never commit this particular form of hate rating.

    I've been on protagonize long enough not to care about whether I'm in the top 50, or how well my stories are rated, because I know their true value. However, I am a man of principal, and when I know I am being trageted by petty revenge from someone who can't handle criticism... it frustrates me.

    I've attempted to confront the author in question, but they plead ignorance.

    I'm not a stupid man. I am convinced I am being singled out for my critiques, that originally, I thought were welcome input. I'll stand by that conviction.

    For now, I'm going to stop rating any of this authors work, as I'm not interested in instigating anything.

    Thanks for your time.
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  • EMPLOYEE
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    Hi Sly,

    Sorry to hear about your predicament, but fortunately, ratings are not anonymous to the moderation team. If you are aware of a specific user rating your work overly negatively, or following a pattern that can be investigated by the moderators, I'd be happy to look into it. Just file a report on the author in question's profile, and I or one of the mods will investigate and take appropriate action.

    To answer the last couple of requests, though, I will not be making any major changes such as removing anonymity from ratings or adding required comments for the time being, as ratings will likely be changing significantly during the redesign. We've been discussing alterations to the ratings system for months and I'll probably be taking at least an interim step towards making them more useful in the next month and a half.

    Thanks for the feedback!

    Cheers,
    -nick / protagonize
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  • I’m curious
    I understand, somewhat, why you'd want to keep the anonymity of raters, but wouldn't it discourage things like hate-rating and encourage the spirit of collaboration and constructive criticism?
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