Offline reading of websites (Cached web pages)

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Yes, it takes time and space. But it's faster if you're on wifi and essential if you travel and only have wifi seldom. Unfortunately most RSS sources have a "click here to read whole article" which defeats the point of downloading rss. So just like in the mediocre android rss reader, newsrob, cached websites would be great.
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Thanks Javier, we're definitely looking into having fully cached articles (text, web and photos).
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Fully cached articles would be GREAT! It is sad not to see the photos and full articles when I am on a plane. And a button to wifi update only would be great too!
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Oops, wifi only update is already here, in the last update. THANKS!
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You can get full-text articles from RSS, just google full-text RSS... There are a number of free services. Now, if only Pulse would show images in the articles when viewing offline...
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Do you support full website caching in the new release of Pulse?

Thanks very much,
Joachim
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No we don't. The problem is that it's a lot of data to download and store and those with 3G accounts may not want to download that much data. Additionally, it will take a LONG time to sync your device with caching everything. We're working on ways to satisfy this request.
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I'd have to add my vote to this feature request.

This would also speed up reading substantially, as waiting for Webkit to do its thing can be a bit tedious.

I do suggest it's a configurable option within the app though, as not everyone will want it.

/Mark
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The problem is that it's a lot of data to download and store and those with 3G accounts may not want to download that much data. Additionally, it will take a LONG time to sync your device with caching everything. We're working on ways to satisfy this request. A configurable option is a great idea.
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That's why it's a feature 'request' :)

If we are already using Pulse over a 3G connection, i suggest it should be our decision - we're already viewing the pages, and so incurring the data cost. And currently we have to sit and wait for the pages to load (which can take a while over 3G). So i vote for the user-selectable option :)

Some feeds provide a good summary within the RSS itself, so you don't always need to click through -- so perhaps each feed could have the option to: "[x] Cache linked articles"

Using the SDK you can tell whether the user is on WiFi or 3G or not, so a simple set of preferences could allow a user to enable caching on 3G connections.

And pull down the RSS feeds as first priority, then go and fill the images, then article links.

Would be good to have a progress bar showing progress of the loads, so you can tell that it's 'approx 1 minute remaining to cache all articles'. (Know this can be difficult with web pages, so even 'Caching article 24 of 54' would be good.)

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Actually another idea may be to have a button at the top of the app, 'Precache Articles' which initiates a dedicated background processing run, that i can click while on Wifi or if on 3G and just want the speed boost.

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Anyway. Good to hear you're thinking about it. Maybe the above can be thrown into the mix.

/Mark
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Thank you Mark!
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The iPhone app byline already supports this, just take a look at it, it has a free version in the AppStore :-)

Or maybe support it with a readability type of formatting like Instapaper does. Really would be a great feature to have and is another USP to get Pulse over the other RSS apps...
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You can send articles through Instapaper through Pulse as a workaround for now. We're working on it. Thanks!
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"Or maybe support it with a readability type of formatting like Instapaper does. Really would be a great feature to have and is another USP to get Pulse over the other RSS apps..."

^^^
I like this too, just make it an option bij the settings menu!!!
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Thanks for the suggestion!
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To Alphonso Lab:

you should be more honest about the offline capabilities of PULSE!
If you state in your features list of PULSE: no internet, no problem it implies that PULSE is capable of storing text AND pictures for offline reading.

This is simply not the case and IMHO one of the most important features of a News Reader for people travelling by plane or in trains where there is no reception.
No matter if that feature is time and space consuming. Just be honest!
The App Byline is capable of doing that and it is possible to integrate that feature. Since one is limited to 20 chanels anyway it can't take much longer that 5 to 10 minutes to download all datas....

just my 2c
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As Jewey said, Byline is a great example of how this can be implemented with options for 3g on cacheing, and feed by feed settings. (also have a look at byline for how it downloads truncated feeds).

I also agree with Nicolas, I was led to believe that Pulse would be cacheing my images, and my excitement melted away when I discovered it wasn't.
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Please make this happen ASAP! This is standard fare in any news reader. If we ALWAYS had signal no matter where we were, the Google Reader mobile version would be all we would need. Without caching, a news reader app, such as Pulse, is useless.
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Have had Pulse since it came out - but with no caching, have not found it useful in the least. With it just sitting on my phone, and no indication from the developers on whether they're taking offline access seriously, I'm just gonna delete it. A pity, because it had a lot of potential going for it.
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We cache the text view. Is this not somewhat useful for reading offline?
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This is very useful. But it's not enough. The problem is a lot of RSS feeds only have the beginning of the articles. So it would rock if pulse had a switch that when flipped made it cache everything, HTML and images. I know flipboard preloads the website for the article you are currently reading in case you click through. But full offline caching would be even better. It's almost 2011, we can waste a few hundred MB :)
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The basic idea of PULSE is great and its UI is very modern and up to date...

None the less the incapability of using it offline (text only is not enough) makes it totally useless as stated before.
Byline is capable and the new FLUD reader as well...

I honestly gave up hope on PULSE also because it is in my believe not ok to tell people about its OFFLINE feature which is practically non existing!
Business people who like their mobile content in one spot are travelling quite a bit and airplanes are not (yet) WIFI zones...

There was a time (about 7 years ago) where there was AVANTGO where one could sync as many channels as one liked before leaving home. The client software was on my Palm. 7 years are enormous technically speaking...

Therefore the expectations of PULSE are high....
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I feel completely let down by Pulse's advertisment of 'offline' mode with no web caching. As others have said, many RSS feeds only give you a snippet. I'd like to have all of my sites available at the touch of the button.

I feel misled by the way Pulse is advertised and, without the web caching, it is useless to me. I have deleted it. Website caching is not a revolutionary idea, it's basic!
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This is really a great feature that I hope will be supported one day. It would make travelling less bandwith expensive and much, much faster. Trying out alternatives until then.
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I am really, REALLY happy to see Instapaper integration! While this is not perfect, and not free, it's a step in the right direction.

All you need to do now is build some Instapaper like replacement into Pulse and you'll have the BEST RSS reader ever.

Anyway, good job!
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I just wanted to put my vote behind all the people who have already suggested this - offline cacheing would make this the perfect app. But as Rick Stone said above, without that feature, you might as well use google reader's mobile app.

Some Alphonso Labs employees have mentioned that it takes time and storage to cache all the web pages. I can understand that. But how about this option - let the user pick specific web feeds that he/she wants to save for later. So, Pulse wouldn't have to keep fetching - only when prompted by the user. Would be useful if you know in advance if you are traveling, etc...
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Bump. With a wifi only device i would love to be able to pre cache all of the images for offline browsing
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I'm also pro offline caching. For each feed it is saved, whether you like the blank rss feed or the related homepage. It would be great to see these preferred versions cached by starting as long as you are in a WiFi area. (And of course an option to not cache anything or to cache even on 3G.)
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Probably you could add a cooperatin with http://www.feedsapi.com/

I use it for thouse silly readmore-feeds.

Then it could be an Option per Feed.
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Offline browsing is the first thing one feels the need for in a news/site aggregator..3g can only do so much and some devices are wifi only..like both my tablets!

Side note, I hope we will be using the sdcard to cache rather than internal memory..saw that idea posted somewhere on this forum but not sure if you have already implemented it
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Hey, just wanted to added that it's easy to cache articles offline with applications like Pocket (That's what I use) or other such apps which have built in functionality with Pulse. This is also more data friendly than pre-downloading all of your articles many of which you won't end up reading anyways.
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It's amazing how we keep getting told what we want. This is why I don't use Pulse and I know I'm not alone.

PS: Using Pocket is not an appropriate solution.
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Noone's telling you to do anything, I was trying to recommend an alternative in the meantime for those who might find it usefull. If you're not happy with that then you're welcome to go do whatever you want but in the future keep your unpleasantness to yourself.
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I use Pocket via another RSS reader. It doesn't provide the functionality that we're after. Pocket was called ReadItLater, which is what it's for... but I'd like articles cached so I can read offline "now" not later.

Using Pocket with Pulse when I'm offline would entail: Opening Pulse, flagging something for Pocket, waiting till I have 3G/wifi, opening Pocket, updating and then reading.

The request is for offline caching so that the need to wait is avoided.

PS: Pocket is great, but not for this problem.
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What I was getting at is that you can flag stuff while having a connection and read it later with Pocket when you have no connection. The obvious problem being it requires a good deal of foresight to think about tagging things in Pocket prior to losing connection.

With that said, I absolutely see your point, and agree this is far from ideal. I was just recommending an alternative in the meantime.
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I agree with this suggestion. Even where I work the signal is horrible and you can barely get personal phone calls much less surf the Web on your smartphone. Sometimes I want to go to the break room and read news but it's only possible with Byline right now.