I don't like the new 'Bills' view

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I find myself using the 'Manage Manual Bills & Income' button when I'm viewing 'Bills' in the Bills & Income tab because it provides the summary of all my bills and income and transfers in one place like the previous version. Please provide an option to view 'Bills' as a simple list the same as 'Income & Transfers.' Combined view does what I want except for, again, the fact there is no simple 'list' view.
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davidlambert

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Are you using the latest patch level?
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Whenever there is a patch or update it is installed so, Yes! Version R4.4, build 27.1.44

I don't like this.


I like this.
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The likelihood of Quicken Inc changing back to the old format is about zero percent.

They are changing the format because they feel that the old format is "old" and cramped (at least that is my guess why they are changing it).

If they wanted it to be like the old format, they wouldn't have changed it.

In fact I think they would argue that they are proving "simple list" much more than the old format which might be considered "complicated".

My suggestion is if you don't like the new Bills tab, just don't use it.
In fact I never used the Bills tab until in the last few years where that is where they added the Online Bills.  Others use it for the Stack and Calendar and such kinds of views.

My standard way to look at my bills reminders is Ctr+J, which brings up the one you (and I) like.  My only hope is that once they are done with all the work on the Bills tab they won't remove the old one.  You can also access the old one from the Tools menu.
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The CTRL-J is also the only way I look at Bills. I do not see anything in the new views that is better. (In fact I can't even use the new views as the do Not match the old way and shows Bills that aren't even setup to be reminded anywhere so it is very confusing to me).

Also, when you click the Bills and Income Tab there is a button "Manage Manual Bills and Income" which goes directly to the old Bill and Income Reminders Window (same as CTRL-J)
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I suggest you consider using Bill and Income Reminders on a Home tab view.  

For more background, you may want to review: https://getsatisfaction.com/quickencommunity/topics/quicken-for-windows-2018-bill-view
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Well, now I have two options for viewing 'Bill and Income Reminders' the way I used to. I didn't know about the 'Control-J' shortcut (pointed out by QPW and miklk) because I previously had the view available to me on it's own tab and I have now set up a new 'View' on my 'Home' tab as Sherlock suggested, as long as I remember that it is there. Thanks fellas.
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BTW You can also put an icon for this on your Tool bar.
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Thanks. Done.
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I could actually enter and process a bill from the old bills list and can't do it with the control J.  They are destroying the Quicken that some of us had helped them develop into a very useful tool.
There was a very disciplined process for working with actual users to make changes that were REAL improvements and not just changes. The usability of Quicken is going backwards. I am sickened by the new version.  This is just one of the poorly implemented changes I have found that were obviously made by a programer without an input from an actual user.
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@Mike60
I could actually enter and process a bill from the old bills list and can't do it with the control J.  
What happens when you select a bill and Enter?
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Nothing happens with 'Enter.' I have to double-click the item.
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Nothing happens with 'Enter.' I have to double-click the item.
Are you saying nothing happens when you left-click on Enter after selecting a bill???



How about if you press Alt + E after selecting a bill?
Is the menu choice remaining grey with a bill selected?
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@Mike60:  You're only complaining to other users.  You haven't even voted for the IDEA.  Note: With only one vote in 9 months, it is not likely to be high on development's list.


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I am new to this.  How do I "vote" for that idea? How do I complain to someone that can fix this disaster?  They are deleting my comments because they don't want others to see them or they just don't want to hear my complaint.
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We vote for an idea by clicking on VOTE (see the image provided earlier).

If you click on HOME at the tip of a page, on the right of the page that will appear, you'll find a few useful links like those shown below that should help you understand how to use this community.

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I don't know for sure, but I have a feeling they deleted out other comments because you just repeated what you have said multiple times.