Will there be a Quicken Home and Business for Mac in the future?

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Quicken Home and Business is the best and most perfect solution for our very small businesses. I have looked for a long time for something that would do what Quicken H&B does and there is no equal. Two years ago I switched to a Mac. I would really love to do away with Windows and Quicken H&B is the only reason I still run Windows on my Mac. Macintosh computers are being purchased at a greater quantity than ever before. Please consider creating Quicken Home and Business for Mac. I, for one, would greatly appreciate it.
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Thanks for putting a vote for a Home and Business version.  Anyone else interested in this?  We still have quite a bit of functionality to add to Quicken for Mac just to get it even close to Quicken Windows so the reality is it may be some time before we get there but would love to find out how many people are interested in this.
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The same.  I want Quicken Home and Business for Mac so that I don't need to run it in a slow virtual Windows environment.  Per other discussion here, I want it available as a desktop version. 1. I want my data on my Mac.  2. I travel and internet is not always readily available where I go.  So having it on my MacBook is what makes sense.  If I did not need to run Parallels, it would be faster and take less battery.
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Absolutely, I am looking to upgrade my Home & Business but switch from Windows to Mac do I can get rid of my Windows machine.  No Mac equivalent. I was going to purchase today Quicken Home & Business for Mac, guess what it does not exist.
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I have trialed Account edge and Express accounts.  I haven't decided on one yet. Check them out and let me know what you think. 
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I've been asking for this for a couple of years now.  I'm about to give up on Quicken altogether b/c either my windows emulators are failing, or Quicken H&B 2016 and 2017 (I've tried both) are failing. 
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I too run Quicken Home and Business on a partition of my Mac, but would really love to just run that version on my Mac.  Count me in on buying it as soon as available.  Please advise if any ETA
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My quicken just stopped working on my mac.   Is there anything out there that will work on Mac?
Am tired of fighting to try and get it to function 
Thanks, 
Anna M. 
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I agree it will not be made available.  They want Online Apps and I don't trust online completely. 
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You just agreed with your own comment from 3 weeks ago; glad you still agree with yourself! ;)

That said, I don't know what you're basing your guesswork on. Intuit, the former parent of Quicken, decided to focus on online programs -- Mint and Quickbooks -- and spun off Quicken because it was a desktop program that didn't fit their focus on online products. The ownership and management of the now-independent Quicken company may in the future develop some online services, but 100% of the company's revenue comes from the sale of their desktop programs, and they know that many of their users want their data to remain in their desktops, not online. It seems highly unlikely they will move away from the current Quicken products anytime soon.
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If they were to create an online version of Quicken Home and Business, I would sign up for that.
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Are you sure about that? That would make it far more a SaaS. See the implications of the sbuscription-based model they rolled out for QW2017 for Canada and are planning for all other versions. A summary of all the issues discussed has been captured here:
https://getsatisfaction.com/quickencommunity/topics/quicken-inc-should-reverse-its-decision-to-chang...

Another issue added to this list includes: being forced to upgrade your OS or hardware. See more details here: 
https://getsatisfaction.com/quickencommunity/topics/quicken-inc-should-reverse-its-decision-to-chang...

If you have a concern about this, you can add your VOTE at top of the page of the link provided. Your VOTE matters!

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Yes please! ready to go with another program for Mac even though it is painful. Please develop a Home and Business for Mac!!!!!!
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Quicken Home & Business on Mac will be very welcome. Have to use virtual machines to run Windows on Macs now. Searching on the internet for solutions, it seems there are a lot of users who had to resolve to using virtual machines on Mac to be able to run Quicken Home & Business. 

Mac is growing as a platform for serious business and home end users, hope Intuit is taking notice of this. 
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Quicken for Home & Business for Mac.

I have been a Quicken user since the DOS days and it has been perfect for me. However, ten years ago I saw the light and switched to using Mac computers. I tried in vain using Quicken for Mac and it did not have the same functionality as Quicken for Home & Business. I tried using a virtual Windows on Mac but the keystrokes are not the same. Bottom line - please expand the line to include higher functioning Quicken products for those of us who want to be free from Windows so I can finally rid my desktop of the last remaining PC, keyboard and mouse that clutter it solely because  I have become so dependent upon Quicken for Home & Business.
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I completely agree. Quicken for Mac should and dare I say must be on par with quicken for Windows for you to have a viable product and charge the same price. Quicken for Mac compared to Quicken for windows is a sub-par product. So sorry i purchased. Currently looking for another product to give me what i need and still use my Mac
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Have you found that elusive product?

So disappointed to have to install software on my Mac to allow it to operate the PC Quicken Home and Business, you'd think they'd realize the demand for a Mac version of this product?
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Consider these free alternatives, in the meantime...

Since you need to keep your PC & Mac, you could also run Quicken on the PC and use remote access software (several free options, e.g. NoMachine and Teamviewer) to access Quicken on one computer from the other, or even mobile devices (see this great article for complete review of many options (most are free): http://machow2.com/rdp-for-mac/ ). Though this article was written primarily with Macs in mind, there are many solutions offered that work for Windows too. The one trade-off is that the host computer cannot really be used for anything else while using Quicken with these remote solutions. 

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I have been using Quicken forever and specifically Home and Business for many, many years. I have postponed switching to Mac because of the lack of this migration. However, when the new MacBook comes out this Fall I am making the switch. It would be super great if there were a Home and Business version for Mac. The words "it may be awhile" is discouraging, especially considering the years that Quicken has had to develop this. Please consider reallocating resources for this product. Thank you.
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I also vote for a business edition of Quicken for Mac. I run a small business and am currently using Quickbooks but I would switch to Quicken in a heartbeat if there were a Business edition. As stated earlier the number of Mac users is growing more and more everyday and I really think you are losing quite a bit of revenue by not having a business edition for Mac.
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It's an option but that would require me to purchase not only Quicken but also VM, and a copy of windows. Just not willing to spend that much money just to have a Business version of Quicken. 
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That is how I am running H&B now and that is the only reason I'm running Windows at all. I would really rather not have to run Windows on my Mac.
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The QMac product is, when compared to QWin, somewhere between the Win "Starter Edition" and Win "Deluxe" in capability.  It's going to be a LONG time before an H&B for Mac is available.  Years, not months.
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Lisa Hines

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They've been saying "years" for years now. I guess that means never in Quicken-speak. Any other good financial solutions out there?
Please add Home and Business for Mac.  My old Windows desktop is dying fast and I use that computer only for Quicken Home and Business home accounting. I am currently using Quickbooks Self Employed for my private practice and and it is extremely limited in its functions
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I too had been an original windows quicken user - I switched to a mac to run my business 8 years ago after my last dell computer bit the dust.  I was VERY disappointed that there was no home and business for my mac and and still disappointed in that - I am starting up my business again and would need to have a business product for my income/expenses.  Since it appears that Quicken will not be coming out with a home and business I will have to look for another option.  Does anyone here know of alternatives?
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Get QuickBooks.
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yes, Quickbooks is an excellent way for you to go; Get the online version..Very smooth
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If you truly want this to be considered seriously, be sure to click VOTE at the top of this page.

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Already voted.
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P.S. Since the new release of the Macbook Pro (2016), I've ordered one which is due to arrive Mid-December. The sooner Intuit can release a Quicken Home and Business solution, the better :) Ready? Go!
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Using Quicken and H&B on Windows since 1997, but, I am converted to MAC since 2009. 
I had to use Windows on top of VM (parallel) to use Quicken_H&B to get by. 

How long will it take for Intuit to recognize more people are using MAC(macOS) and provide user with H&B MAC version? Shall I wait for it or find alternative ?
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Tom, I'd love to figure some way to identify more folks like you and I who represent the "pent-up demand" in the market place.  Only by driving the business case for Quicken would they be able to devote more resources to the project.
-Terry
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Perhaps a FB campaign? Would get a lot more exposure than this site
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How do we start a FB campaign?
Sounds pretty cool
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I'm having the same problem, although I've just started using Quicken. I really can't believe there is not a Mac version, feel like I'm in a time warp from the 1980-90's
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To all those who are asking for a Mac version of Home & Business, understand that the absence of such a product does not mean the management of Quicken doesn't understand there are people who would like it. There has *never* been a Mac Home & Business version, although there are likely more home Mac users now than ever before. There are really two issues...

First, they haven't yet gotten the existing Quicken for Mac product to be on a par with the legacy Quicken 2007 for Mac or with Quicken for Windows. They started from scratch to build a new generation Quicken for Mac a few years ago, but the programming team is very small -- resulting in them making progress, but fairly slow progress. It will likely take another year or two just to get Quicken Mac to the level of Quicken Deluxe for Windows.

After that work is done, the next question is whether they devote resources -- programmers and time -- to building a Home & Business version for Mac. There's no doubt there's demand for such a product, but the question is whether there's *enough* demand to justify the thousands of hours it would take to create, test, bring to market and support. There are, at the time I'm writing this, 23 votes for this idea at the top of the page. Obviously, that's not a useful sample of people who would buy Quicken H&B for Mac; it just means that comments posted here don't give the management team any real help in deciding how large the market is for such a product. They do know how many people buy the Windows version of H&B, and they need to forecast how many Mac copies they could sell. The number has to be big enough to justify the development, maintenance and support costs.

In any case, I would not expect to see a Home & Business edition of Quicken for Mac anytime in the next year, and probably not for longer than that, even if they do decide to create one.
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I've given up hope on the Home and Business version for Mac. If they wanted to do it, they would have already done it. As it stands now, people are still resorting to a virtual machine of sorts to run the windows version, equating to Quicken still seeing the revenues without the overhead of creating the Mac version. There are many, many people in the world with the skills and knowledge to create the Mac version of H & B. Thus, they could contract with them to do it. That's why I don't think it will ever happen. Meanwhile, I might have to resort to another solution - IF one ever comes along. 
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Lisa,

If you read my post above, you'll see why I don't think you're correct about Home & Business for Mac. You say "If they wanted to do it, they would have already done it" and "There are many, many people in the world with the skills and knowledge to create the Mac version of H & B." But I think you're focused on the wrong issue: it's not a matter of not being able to find programmers to do the work, it's the economics to fund the work.

Look, they've been working for the past 4+ years just to build a new generation of Quicken for Mac. If they had the resources (e.g. more revenue = more funds = more programmers), they would have been further along faster. I'm convinced that there's no lack of desire on the part of the Mac team at Quicken, it's that they don't sell enough to throw more people at it. Building from scratch all the features developed over the past 3 decades of Quicken Windows and Mac takes time, and if there was lots of money to throw at it, they could have rooms of programmers developing code much more quickly, or as you suggest, they could hire out contract programmers. But there clearly aren't enough people buying Quicken Mac for them to afford to do that. So they've got a small team of programmers working away, making steady progress to create a new Quicken for Mac that, update by update, increasingly fills the many needs of longtime users.

At the pace they've been on, factoring in that the president of the company has said they've been adding programmers, but also factoring in that they must devote a chunk of time this year to re-write lots of code because of Quicken's separation from Intuit (whose back-end servers still provide a lot of the downloading functionality), my guess is that it will take another year to two to do the development work required to check off many of the requested features longtime users are still waiting for.

Further up in this thread, the product manager of Quicken for Mac said that exactly: "We still have quite a bit of functionality to add to Quicken for Mac just to get it even close to Quicken Windows..." Then turning to the possibility of a Home & Business version for Mac, he added: "...so the reality is it may be some time before we get there, but [I] would love to find out how many people are interested in this." So he's clearly saying that they haven't ruled out creating a Home & Business version for Mac, but they're not yet far enough along in developing the core Quicken for Mac to consider it yet. So, again guessing, it might be another year or more until they even decide whether to devote the resources to building Home & Business for Mac, and if they decide to do it, maybe another year until they have a first version to sell. Bottom line: *if* they decide to do a Mac version of Home & Business, it will probably be at least 2 or 3 years, maybe more, until it's available.
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Thans Lisa, EXCELLENT discussion of the business case for QM build-out.  I'd like to add that it would be interesting to know how much pent up demand there is for Mac version, i.e. those H&B users who are still keeping a clunky old Windows machine around in anticipation of a more robust Quicken product...that was certainly true for me until early 2016 when I switched to Mac version. 
Regards,
Dr. Terry Fotre
Woodside, CA
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I would love to see the Home & Business version for Mac.   There are always people looking for financial software designed for Macs: and not having to run on top of Windows or virtual machines.   

I for one am not interested in running Parallels, or the like!

Even better would be for making it available to Canadians.
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I would also love to have a H&B version for MAC,
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I add my voice to hoping for a Mac version of Quicken Home and Business.  Thank you to Lisa for adding some depth of perspective.  However, you say Intuit can't be certain of the demand.  Seems to me there would be many ways of discerning the level of potential demand.

Suggestion:  Make it a condition of sale for every Quicken  program - and every update - (for direct sales and distributors) - that the buyer answer 2 questions:  

    1.)  Are you intending to use this Quicken version for a Mac, through a virtual Windows
          application?
    2.)  If it were available in a Mac version, for use without the need of virtual Windows: How likely
           would you be to switch to the Mac version if the quality/functionality of the program were the
           same? 
                  Absolutely!____  Very Likely  _____ Maybe Next Year _______ Not Sure ______  
                                       Probably Not ______  Definitely Not ________

Seems to me you'd get plenty of data - to take to your Directors - with that approach.
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It's worth bearing in mind that users switching from Windows to Mac versions of Quicken do not increase the size of the user base; switchers don't generate more revenue for the company to fund development. That doesn't mean there's not demand, or that satisfying that demand isn't important -- it just doesn't identify an unserved market segment that could bring in new revenue to help pay for added developers.
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Hit the nail on the head
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No but it does bring in justification to possibly shift development money from the Windows side to the Mac side, since the Windows version is a quite mature product, so is more in maintenance mode. This may slow down some development on the Windows side but enable growth on the Mac side. But it may show that the amount of resources being applied to the Windows version is disproportionate to the demand.

Also, that survey would miss identifying new H&B users on the Mac side...either new to Quicken or old Quicken for Mac users looking to upgrade. So that would need to be captured too as potential new revenue.
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Quicken Home and Business for Mac please.  The sooner the better!
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In addition allow exporting to all file extensions. 
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Do update List of Banks in ONLINE BANKING SET UP.  (According to a window integrated it supposed to be updated daily)  Individual purchases of Intuit products generates sufficient revenue to also allow customer demand and satisfaction.  
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I would really like Quicken Home & Business for Mac
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Not much expectation with quickbook and intuit.  After 20 + years of usage! PROBLEMATIC EVERY STAGE!
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Rafael Rosario: Quicken used to be part of Intuit, but it's an independent company now. QuickBooks is an Intuit product, but Quicken is not.
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it appears that this is just a sounding board nobody is really looking at this
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I would suspect it has low visibility since the Quicken folks have their hands full getting Quicken for Mac ups to speed capability wise with QM2007 & Quicken for Windows
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@Parker Crew: yes, this thread is a sounding board, but you're incorrect to assume no on is looking at it. I know this is a long thread, but if you take a sec to scroll all the way to the top, or just click here, you will see the first reply in this thread is from product manager Marcus, who explicitly asked users to post here if they are interested in Quicken Home & Business for the Mac.

There has never been a Mac version of H&B before, and Marcus makes clear that they have more work to do on the core Quicken Mac product before they can even consider creating a H&B version -- but the purpose of this thread is exactly to be a sounding board for Quicken management on this issue. Marcus isn't going to respond to ever vote or plea for such a program, but since he asked people to express their interest here, he presumably is looking at the responses from time to time, or when they periodically review their long-term product development roadmap.
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Yes, I would love Quicken for Mac Home and Business
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Suppose that the Home and Business version would be introduced as an online service, similar to Quickbooks online thats used for small business today.   This should give Quicken the ongoing revenue it needs to hire and retain developers and also provide funds for future releases.   I personally would not mind paying for $9.95 per month subscription for a cloud based solution with unlimited storage.
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That is an excellent idea. 
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@Rafael: that's not a bad idea, but it would be something completely new for Quicken to develop. Most of us assume that if they do a Home & Business version for Mac, it would be similar to the Windows version -- an extension of the existing core Quicken product. Creating an online service would require starting program development from scratch, and I don't think they're likely to do that. Also, while you would be happy with an online service, there are many Quicken users who want their data stored locally and not in the cloud.
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They are not interested in supporting their loyal customers that have switched to MAC!
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Rick0, sorry, but that just doesn't make sense. They're a business, in business to money, right? So they certainly care about retaining customers and getting money from those customers.

There are two factors that come into play here: (1) Are there *enough* customers who would buy the product to generate enough revenue to cover the costs of development plus a profit? And if the answer to that is yes, then (2) How much work/time would it take to develop the product? And those two questions are interrelated. If the projected profits are high enough, they could hire more developers to try to cut the development time; conversely, if the projected profits are slim, they may need to take a slow path with a smaller development team in order to stay profitable.

But none of those business decisions translates to them not caring about their loyal customers.
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I would like to see Quicken Home and Business for Mac as well.  I ONLY buy parallels to run Quicken which is ridiculous. In fact, I would really like an online version with all the functionality and then I wouldn't need to worry about what type of computer I would need and could use it anywhere!!!
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I AGREE! I would like an online version as well.
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I'd purchase H&B in a heartbeat. Used it for years way back when. Just became too much of a hassle to partition for it. Not only that, I'd recommend it to my solo operator clients and followers.