iPhone / iPod Touch Support?

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I cant get song bird to recognize my ipod touch. I dont know if it just doesnt support ipod touches but i can seem to get it to work. I really hope that if its not supported it will be in the future. I really like this program and want and alternative to the terrible itunes.
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Ipod touch 2.2 windows vista sp1. Up to date sb. No go? or can it do it? Help!!!

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Vista+Ipod Stroke+SB=:(.
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This would make SB the GREATEST. Please make this a #1 priority.
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i use songbird now i stoped using itunes and i want to know does songbird support iphone

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songbird with iphone.
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G'day, iPod support is currently broken in Songbird, because nobody is willing to step up and maintain it anymore.

And POTI are too busy supporting Phillips officially (Phillips are shipping Songbird with their media players soon), and supporting generic device plugins, to burn resources supporting a device specific plugin which they can't support well regardless..

That being said, if a developer did stand up to do so, its Libgpod based, and open source, so anyone can take over..
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How does Winamp do it?
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AMDphreak

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@thevan ...

Winamp uses a plugin that was built for Winamp.
The name of the plugin is mlipod, pronounced "em ell ipod"
you can download the plugin by itself, but it is normally distributed as part of Winamp's install.

The people at songbird have most likely studied other Winamp plugins, so they simply made songbird work with the plugin by coding Songbird to interface with it...basically they made a compatibility layer in Songbird to use Winamp plugins. I haven't tried it, but Songbird might be able to use other Winamp plugins depending on how specific or how non-specific this compatibility layer is. A compatibility layer that is too specific would be one that was built with the peculiarities of the mlipod plugin in mind, and only its peculiarities.
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Interesting. So in theory mlipod should work with Songbird as an addon? Hmm...
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Well what i did was kept my ipod touch syncing with itunes but i changed some settings so i can have all the same music on my htc hero via songbird

1) Edit >> Preferences >> Advanced I chose a folder for all my media to be stored

and in songbird Tools >> Options >>Media imported >> Watch folder


And after these settings i had all my media on both a temp solution but it works!
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I know how totalitarian Apple is. I hear the same arguments over and over again about how much Apple is hostile to open standards, blah, blah, yada, yada... It did not stop RealNetworks from incorporating iPod support into their RealPlayer client. They did it essentially by hijacking parts of iTunes and reverse engineering other parts. Predictably, Apple screamed bloody murder, Apple threatened, Apple threw tantrums, Apple sued, and here it is - years later - and Real's client STILL features iPod support. In other words, Real stood their ground and Apple blinked. True, in order for RealPlayer's scheme to work, one has to install iTunes. Nevertheless, it IS possible to use an iPod without having to use iTunes.

So, why doesn't Songbird do something like this?

I think Songbird should go even further. Songbird should offer it's own iPod firmware to make it Songbird-friendly. Implement it in the form of an extension one installs into Songbird. The first time the user plugs his iPod into his computer's USB port when Songbird is up, the firmware upgrade/rewrite/overwrite/whatever procedure starts. At the end of the procedure, the extension is disabled, Songbird is re-initialized, the iPod is rebooted and voila... Songbird and iPod are now simpatico!

Of course, disclaimers would have to be put into the EULA, warning that overwriting Apple's iPod firmware - or "jail-breaking" - not only voids Apple's iPod product warranty, but could result in your rendition to a Rwandan prison for a decade - or your life - whichever ends first. But people in the Linux community have been enjoying "jail-broken" iPods for years now, and reports of users being "disappeared" are rare. So, I think this is a viable plan with acceptable risks for those of us who love our iPods, but HATE Apple and iTunes.
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Why should they ever go through all the trouble? Why, if you hate Apple so much, do you financially support them. There are a bevvy of other players out there, from Android devices, to Philips devices, to the great Sansa Clip, HiFiMan, the list goes on and on. If you want really great sound, there is a new player out there from iBasso. The point is, you claim to hate Apple, to hate iTunes, yet you continue to financially support Apple. Consumers would be a hell of a lot better off if people stopped buying things they "hate" when there are other (often superior) alternatives, that you just have to do a little research to find.

Companies like Apple leverage information asymmetries to increase their own revenues at the expense of consumer surplus, but it's the consumers that allow them to do this, by voting for them with their wallets.