songbird *really* slow

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Songbird is really, REALLY slow. I definitely know it is not my computer - I got it just a month ago, and everything else works fine on it:

Core i7 920 3.0GHz
MSI Eclipse Motherboard
6GB DDR3-1333 (with XP 32-bit only ~4GB, though)

And yet, it lags when you drag the window around, everything takes ages to do. Editing metadata for more than ~20 songs at a time causes it to momentarily freeze, the search-as-you-type thing takes ages to update itself, going from double-click on a song to actually playing it is about 5 seconds, switching between playlists is really slow and going back to the library is even worse, scrolling is laggy, and manipulating songs (moving them round, deleting them, adding them, [b]everything[/b]) is just woefully slow. I originally switched from iTunes because Songbird 1.0 was faster, but honestly, with the performance boosts with iTunes 8, and Songbird 1.1 and 1.1.2 getting slower and slower, I am seriously considering switching back.
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I have the same problems too. My PC is not as fast as yours, but it is unacceptable to wait 30 seconds when searching in a database with about 5.000 songs. I'm really curious if this problem comes from the database, or from the XULRunner part. Interestingly is that it was fast in the beginning, so maybe some plugins may slow it down (I have only the lyrics one installed).
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G'day,

Part of the problem is because Isan/1.2 runs the library and GUI in the same thread. The non technical way of thinking about it is a circular road with 2 car. One car is the library and the other is the interface. If one car stops, the other does, and if one slows down dramatically, the other will.

In Jackson 5 (or Kanye) though, the cars are on seperate roads now. So if one car slows down, the other will in many cases keep running ok.

This means that the GUI will hopefully stop freezing up or slowing down in Songbird 1.3 (or 1.4 ) when doing things, and everything will be more smooth in general. Apparently this also includes the slowdown during searching :D They really wanted it to be a part of 1.2, however, apparently it wasn't ready at the time.

More technical information can be found at:
http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show...

Furthermore, as you all know, the firefox 3.5 technologies add epic speed increases, and since firefox uses the same code base, when ported back here, the interface and songbird will get further speed increases.

So a lot of MAJOR performance enhancements soon hopefully :D

Andrew
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Thanks for this info, andrew!
I always appreciate your up to date news. :-)
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Well, I can see it's over a year since this question was posted and I'm experiencing the exact same problem on my brand new Windows 7 PC. My specs are through the roof and yet Songbird wheezes and grinds to a halt if I try and do the simplest things. There's even a few seconds of delay after I rate a song! It's almost funny how slow it is.
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I've been a user since the beginning, but the speed (or lack there of) is a serious problem (which seems to be getting worse). I hope it can be fixed, because I don't want to go back to Foobar.
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howlndog:

1) Which Songbird version are you using? Which platform as well?
2) How large is your library?
3) Are there specific actions that perform slowly/slower?
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howlndog

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1. ver 1.7.3 on Windows XP Pro
2. 724 artists, 1358 albums, about 18,000 songs
3. ditto to Aled Evans, below... but with a 5 second delay, switching views is 18 seconds.
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for me:

1) version 1.7.3 on Win 7
2) 216 artists - 715 albums - 8400 songs
3) everything is slow - accessing a menu, double-clicking to play a song, clicking on a star to rate a song. basically I can't ask Songbird to do anything without a 2 second delay
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17 seconds for SB to open on a MacBook Pro 4.1 DuoCore, 4GB Ram.
7-8 seconds to switch view.

Maybe that's normal but I think that is slow. Just "e.g." - other operations take long as well.

Songbird 1.8b2, Mac OS X 10.6.4
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you know i fixed it a couple of versions ago by removing songbird, deleting the directory, deleting appdata folder, and registry entries.. and then reinstalling, i did this a few times till it worked fine..

and since the upgrade to the new version the same problem again.
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On v1.7.3 at the moment, painfully slow at times. I might try deleting everything and re-installing, but installing it always requires a f%&$ing reboot, unforgivable in this day and age.
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Since upgrade to 1.7.3 Songbird has been extremely slow on my computer, esp loading up - 20 seconds or more, with the loading-up picture (sorry don't know the jargon) popping up every few seconds infront of other windows,. previous version was slow but this is much worse
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Some Relief....

I uninstalled Songbird v1.7.3 and deleted all associated folders from "local users" and "app data" directories. I then used RegCleaner to remove any Songbird registries.

After a restart, I installed the latest nightly build... and voila! After importing my media the performance is much improved, with only the slightest lag. The downside, of course, is that very few add-ons work... but I'll live with that for now.

Thanks to mr.skygen for the tip.
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@ howlndog You can get a lot of the add-ons to work if you get the Developer Tools, but even then I still prefer the speed of J River Media Jukebox and Media Center, Songbird is still just too slow when searching and tagging.
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Update: It's slowed right down again. Even with a complete wipe and installing the latest nightly build. Sure hope this will get fixed sometime. I think I'll try some of the recommended alternatives until then.
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Can anyone name a decent alternative to Songbird (which i got as a alt. to iTunes)??

Recently made the switch to mac from Win7 and I used quintessential media player beta 5.

I have a macbookPro 2.6 ghz, 4gig ram. Completely agree with Rory re: that the lag and having to reboot are unacceptable in this day and age, especially with the specs mentioned in this thread.
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same problem with songbird 1.8

library size: 21'547 songs
specs:
win7 64bit
ram 4gb
cpu u7300 @ 1.3ghz
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Friday 17, the patch of bug 21545 has been reconstructed,(build 1816) no more latency on the filters (Library 7500 titles), just a little for research.
Finally a super Songbird
the weather is good, the birds sing in Paris
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Well, I'm desperately trying songbird as I dislike iTunes - and to be honest it handles my mobile device very well. I love the pluggins, but its just too slow for me to use at the mo
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Don't be anxious, next version 1.9 (beta 1 to be expected by end of next week) has solved most of the perf issues :)
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I seem to remember that being said about first 1.4, 1.7.3, and then 1.8.0. Yet, for all that, 1.0 still remains the fastest Songbird build I've used yet, and performance still sucks. I don't see how Songbird can continue trying to include new features (looking at the Wiki roadmap for Songbird here...) while the mere fact that it's slow makes it completely unusable.
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But this time, the alpha versions are really a huge improvement.
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I guess I'll have to give it a go when it comes out...
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I have also the problem of Songbird being extremely slow and not usable for me. I might give the next version another try before switching to itunes (which I tried to avoid). When will the next version be released?
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The first public beta for 1.9 is expected any day, now.

Read here for more info on the roadmap: http://wiki.songbirdnest.com/Roadmap
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Sorry, but where can I download the latest beta version?
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the newest beta (1.9) should be delivered any day(week ?) now. If you look at the addons page, you'll see that some official addons have been updated for 1.9 beta and even RC already... so, just wait a little bit more :)
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Ahhhhhhhh soon please now 1.9....... Patience wearing thin......
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So what happened to 1.9 ???
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I never use Songbird because it's so slow and unresponsive, and crashes if I keep clicking on things to try to get it to respond. I'm also in Windows 7 64-bit, i5 M560 dual core 2.67 GHz processor, 4 GiB of RAM, running Songbird 1.10.1. 9000 songs in library. There's really no excuse for a program to be this slow on a modern computer.
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I have 57600 Tracks and using a Quad 2.8 on WIndows 7 x64 with 8Gb of RAM. It's slow but not as bad as when I last tested it. I think it's got a lot of potential so I'll stay with it and see how it develops? I thought I had the Perfect player in Silverjuke but development just died and they don't answer the forum users :-(

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