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Lower the Internal Memory usage of the Android App

The more I use Springpad on my desktop, the more I want to delete it from my phone! Why? Because the more I spring stuff from my PC, the more Springpad is killing my phone's internal memory...

You've got to do something about it, it's the only drawback I have with Springpad, but it's about to completely turn me away from using it, on both platforms (since my main usage is to have notes and bookmarks shared across my devices).

Here are 2 options I suggest you consider:

• Let the user choose which of his notebooks he wants to have automatically synced on his phone (not every notebook is necessarily needed on the go).

• Ask the user if he wants Springpad's synced Data to be stored on the SD card instead of the internal memory when there's an SD card available.

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To clarify: I am aware that your app can already be moved to the SD card, and that helps save a few MBs, but, even with the app stored on the SD card, the Data synced are stored in the Internal memory, and that can be a huuuuge amount of MBs for your heavy users.

Thanks in advance for considering this feedback.
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    BTW, another solution could also be to store a part of the "Data" in "Cache":

    • Instead of storing everything once and for all, only previews of the notes would be stored in Data during Sync, and the rest would be downloaded in the app's Cache, but only when the user actually needs it.

    That way users with big memory phones would, after some time, have all their stuff downloaded into Cache, while users with low memory phones would, from time to time, be able to delete their Cache (and unlike deleting Data, deleting Cache wouldn't delete their account login and their settings).
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  • I’m frustrated
    I have the feeling that Springpad isn't realizing how big an issue this is: It simply makes the app unusable on ~2 years old phones (in my case a Nexus One).

    For me, that's it. I've already uninstalled Springpad from my phone, and as a consequence, I'm now looking into possible next steps: http://discussion.evernote.com/topic/...

    To put this into context: One of my Notebook was put into "Spotlight" some weeks ago on the "Explore" tab of the web app, some of my springs were several times featured in the "New Springs" section of the "Explore" tab, My number of followers was steadily growing, I was more and more happy with the UI improvements, was more and more attached to this community, etc... ► It's really too bad that a poor management of the users phones' resources is about to make me turn my back on this otherwise great service.
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    This storage misuse is killing the cloud. And baby cats.
    Seriously, you're doing it wrong:

    What's the point of using a web service to collect and store my notes if they all end up being re-stored locally on my mobile devices --like if the web didn't existed?

    I could as well copy .doc and .pdf into my phone if overloading its internal memory was my goal in the first place. At least this way I'd put them on the SD card!

    Who asked your app to make this insane sync --that is in fact not a sync but a download-- on setup? Certainly not me! But don't get me wrong: I can see how this can be a feature asked by some users --using phones with huge storage and/or living in areas with bad wireless connectivity-- but please don't force that offline behavior on all your users --some of us live online, mind you!

    Save baby cats! Save the cloud!
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    As a point of reference:

    I have +18 GB of files stored on Dropbox. The Dropbox Android app (moved to SD) takes 3.41 MB of my phone's limited internal storage.

    I have ~500 bookmarks stored in Springpad. The Springpad Android app (moved to SD) takes 10.88 MB of my phone's limited internal storage.

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    So, you tell me:

    between a solution that allows me to access / modify / store for offline use / manage / share / upload ... nearly 20 GB of data with less than 4 MB on my phone ;

    and a solution that allows me to access / modify / manage / share / upload / comment on 500 bookmarks (i.e. URLs - text strings of a few characters) --and their thumbnail pics-- by using more than 10 MB on my phone ;

    Which one do you think makes the best use of the cloud?
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    I just returned to Springpad after a long time. Like the new changes but this issue is also making me not to use it. Why can't we select what gets synced and what is always taken from the cloud? I don't want each and every notebook downloaded to my phone! Not only does it kill the internal memory but the data!
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  • I’m pessimistic
    Sadly, Springpad seems to be deaf to this issue.

    It has been asked several times (for at least 2 years):
    https://getsatisfaction.com/springpar...
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  • I've actually switched to another note program just because of this and no wifi syncing. I absolutely love springpad's interface but these two things are deal breakers for me.
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  • Please allow the users to choose which Notebooks they want to sync on their Android App. Even moved to SD the Android Springpad app is taking too much internal memory space because it syncs every Notebooks, even those that I don't need on my phone. A simple checkbox list in the Android app to choose what to sync would be much appreciated. And/or, it could also be an option accessible from the Web App with a "Keep this Notebook synced on your mobile devices" box to un-check inside the Notebook Settings panel).

    Replace Android by iOS devices and I guess this suggestion would still be relevant.

    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    Selection of Notebooks to sync on mobile devices.
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  • In a similar vein, there is TOO MUCH caching going on in EVERY version of the App.

    When I update a checklist or note in my desktop browser, then later visit the same item on the Android App, the updates won't be there, (yes, I've got network connectivity).

    There's no "refresh" button on the Mobile app, so I've taken to going in and out of multiple items in an attempt to force it to refresh. This morning that didn't work, and so I actually thought the desktop app had failed to push an update.

    On the flip side, I have the same problem in reverse: Update in the Mobile app, then visit the note in the desktop app, and the updates are not present. It must be pulling the note content from the browser cache or from HTML5 local storage. I have to hit "Refresh" (at least this is possible on the web version) in order to see the updated note.

    Other than this, I'm a fan of the site/app. But this is becoming a show-stopper for me.
    • There's a big "sync now" button in the options. In fact, it's the first thing you see. I agree, though, I've been missing a refresh button on the main interface as well.

      I never really understood the "send to phone" web version option - either there should be push updates (which would drain battery to some extent, I agree) or more flexible sync options (sync every x minutes/hours instead of "twice a day and when you start").
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  • I would agree with the motion for selective syncing.

    Too much in this thread has been focused on arguing against sync and local data storage at all which is, well, nonsense. There's plenty of users relying on offline data availability (in fact, that's the key advantage compared to the free evernote version for me). But storing it in ./data on Android and giving some ability to choose what you want to store on your mobile device would be certainly a step in the right direction.

    Springpad is more than just a note-taking app. It's a knowledge management tool. Saving plenty of media springs on phones with low (internal) memory can be an issue, I agree. Especially with low to mid range phones which you will need to keep in mind if the user base is supposed to grow quickly. However, for users of such phones, the offline storage capability is as important, so do not listen to some of the posters in this thread.

    In short: Selective notepad syncing on mobile devices seems like a smart move to expand the user base in the mid-term.
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  • Sadly, I think this stems from Springpad's identity crisis - it can't decide if it is a social collaboration/sharing tool (more like a blog) or an all-around note-taking tool on the go.

    True offline sync is really essential as a note-taking tool. But for notebooks with clipped webpages that you don't really need stored on your mobile, there should be a way to turn this off.

    IMHO, true offline sync is really powerful and should be kept. This is something that Evernote users doesn't have by default, you have to pay for it. So the best solution would be to make it a user option per notebook.
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  • For those tired of waiting for Springpad to improve its data storage management, and willing to migrate to another service, you can join the lobbying here:

    http://help.getpocket.com/customer/po...
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