iOS 6 Compatibility

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I'm really hoping that someone is working on compatibility for Stanza in iOS 6... Not looking forward to doing without this, despite the also excellent Megareader.
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Stanza is now a dead product as far as support or updates is concerned (blame Amazon as the owners for this). If there are any iOS6 related problems do not expect them to be fixed.

I am also a Megareader/Quickreader user and find it to be excellent eRading software I also particpate in the beta program for that product and there are some nice new features imminent. It has the great advantage over Stanza of being actively maintained and updated.
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Sorry to disagree.. MegaReader is nowhere near 'excellant'!!!

In fact it is unusable as far as I am concerned. It is in active development and that is good, but the way books display is still rather poor. Even iBooks, which is awful, is better.....
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I have to agree with you, Wyndham. While MegaReader is supported, it's updates are few and far between. They really need to step up the updates to get it even close to Stanza (I do own MegaReader b/c I think it has potential, but I don't think it can even handle bold or italics yet). Another reader I know of that's actively trying to become a Stanza replacement is ShuBook. It's updates/dev cycle seem to be much faster and looks to be closer to the goal, though they both have different areas they need to work on.
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I started using shubook last month as I know the end is nearing for stanza. Not perfect but the closest thing I could find to it and it is actively updated. Already updated since I bought it - free, $1.99 for advanced features.
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I bought ShuBook following the recommendations here.

It is probably the best of the eBook readers available, although it is still missing some important features, such as using the formatting from the ePub.

The biggest omission for me though, is that there is no progress icon next to the titles in the library. I really can't understand why Stanza is the only eBook reader to offer this feature - that I am aware of.

How on earth do you cope with a large library if you can't see what books you have already read, or are part way through?
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Well, up until Stanza was officially abandoned, all the other ebook readers seemed to being working in their own directions (I assume b/c Stanza was so far ahead of everyone at being a general purpose reader), so they've had to quickly switch gears and play catch-up.

MegaReader seemed more of a light/entry level version of QuickReader which was concentrating on the whole speed reading thing. I believe ShuBook was mostly geared toward Asian readers before Stanza died, so I don't know what things they were previously concentrating on. Both readers have good customer support, in my experience, and they're the only ones I know of that have openly stated that they're working to become a Stanza replacement.

Anyway, I guess we'll have to keep letting them know what features we want/need and hope they can get caught up enough before a future iOS update completely kills Stanza.

What I'm really curious about is how Stanza managed to do all it did for free - not even any ads.
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errr... they werent trying to be a threat to the Kindle app... they were already available before Amazon even created the Kindle app for iOS. I used Stanza on my iPhone 2G (the original iPhone) from very soon after release.
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They may not have been targeting Amazon/Kindle directly, but they were most certainly capable of looking at the direction things were going. There were already several players in the ebook reader marketplace by the time that Lexcycle got cranked up, and it didn't take a genius to see what was likely to happen. If it hadn't been Amazon, it would have been one of their competitors who bought Stanza. Re-read the last paragraph of my earlier post - Amazon's primary motivation appears to have been to take Stanza out of play before some well-funded competitor could acquire it and deploy it as a challenge to the Kindle's position.
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I don't disagree that Amazon's motivation was of that kind, I was simply disagreeing about the timeline of Stanza as opposed to Kindle. Stanza was first to the iphone in June of 2008, and Kindle was a year later (almost) in May of 2009. Prior to that, there was "Bookshelf" now known as Tomes, which I also owned because I had been using its earlier versions on my jailbroken iPhone 2G, but once Stanza arrived, it was clearly superior so I pretty much abandoned Tomes. Tomes itself has not greatly improved, IMO (I did buy it from the itunes app store, out of loyalty to the dev after having been using it for so long thanks to the original app being free via Installer). I dont know of any other reader apps which were available because Bookshelf was what I used between August of 2007 and June of 2008.
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Also, I seriously doubt that Lexcycle had any such objective.
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It wasn't a question of just what was available on the iOS platform - the Stanza application structure, much of the code base, and the entire user interface would have been fairly readily portable to quite a number of other platforms (look at what has been done with the Kindle software). Stanza was originally targeted at the iOS platform, but the potential user base was much, much broader than that.

As for your doubts, this is a free country - doubt away. You'll be wrong, though.
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I installed the final release of iOS 6 today. After my phone came up the first thing I checked was Stanza. It worked fine.
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Now that's rather comforting news... What model have you tried it on? Thank you! :-)
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After the trouble with iOS 5, I was pretty happy myself. It's an iPhone 4S.
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Good news, I was hopeful after the success at beta 3. I'll still update my iPad first, before my iPhone, just in case some things are broken. Overall though, excellent news.
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I fully agree with the posters who emphasize, that no other Reader comes even near to the excellence of Stanza.
And I almost tried all other readers.

My great respect to the developers of that wonderful piece of software.
I love reading books with stanza on my iPhone.
If anybody knows a way to collect money as a crowd for an update for iOS6, for donating it to the developers, or even a way to reanimate the project, please let us know.

I will not update from iOS5.1 to iOS6 as long as Stanza doesn't work.

The hope dies last.
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Its working. Never say die. Its on my 3GS/iOS6 as I type and its working very well (except for dictionary which works from inside a book but not as an independent from the menu)
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@kyteflyer
That's good news! Thanks.

Am I right, that you talk about the version 3.2 from the 10th of November 2011 in the app store?
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yes, thats the only one we could use on 5.x and its the one that works on 6.
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Damn, I'm going to miss Stanza.... :-(
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You don't have to.
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I hope you're right, B4 the iOS5 fix, I cried like a baby, very embarrassing!
Thanks for info, good reading....
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You dont have to hope. IT WORKS!!!
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BAD news after all. Don't try to access settings via the info page. Your phone will freeze and it will necessitate a reboot. I'll check the other stuff too. Never worried about settings because mine are set, so to speak. Reading is OK though. Havent tried addint new books yet either.

[edit] Briefl;y went through as many of the other features as I could... everything else seems fine. Just don't access settings via the main page, do it only from inside a book.
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For me it hangs not only when choosing Settings from the main page, but also from inside a book: Settings icon works, but then choosing General or Layout makes the app freeze.

iPhone 4, iOS 6.0.
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yup same thing, everything else works just no main setup
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Settings from inside a book is fraught, as well. Controls is OK, as is the theme changer, but accessing the General or Layout tab will have the same freeze effect. On another note, I decided to give Shubook another look. I had used it some time ago in its free version which is crippled to heck and has ads... and decided that buying ShubookSE (which is the same as Shubook + in app purchase of Package A) for $1.99 would be worth the effort, and it is.

With the exception of Annotations (which I never used) and pinch/spread to change font size on the fly, its nearly a Stanza clone. I've been so impressed with it, that I have finally deleted Stanza on my iPhone 3GS and have moved to Shubook full time. All this in less than 24 hours.

We all know that amazon is not going to do anything to fix the current issues, Megareader and Bluefire devs have a different agenda to ours, and have not been able to give us even something near enough to Stanza... in the meantime Shubook has quietly fulfilled wishes for most of us... and continues to be supported. It does not work on the original iphone2G with 3.1.3 so I have left Stanza 3.1 on that.

I'm sold, and won't be agitating for Stanza any longer.
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Thanks for your hints!

I tried Shubook (without SE). First impression: I like it a lot.

There are only a very few details I miss compared to Stanza:

* a nice visualization of "thumb through". The "curl" effect moves the "paper" to the top, not to left - like in a real book

* there's no way to fine tune the line or paragrahp spacing.

Footnote:
I tried to import an epub via iTunes with Shubook (without SE), but it seems, that such an import works only with the SE version.
A list of all features of "package A" I couldn't find.
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On kyteflyer's recommendation, I too switched to Shubook & very quickly up'd to SE, for $1.99, why even ask?
To see the difference, go to the app store and compare the free version to the SE version.
Bye-bye Stanza.....
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SE is the same product as Shubook with Package A. Its so cheap, just do it. Its not Stanza, but its close, and the developers are pretty receptive :) I think there is an extremely good chance that all the issues people have can be solved by sending requests to their support site.
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Of course it wasn't my intention to say anything about the price. Indeed, it's very cheap. But it's always good to know, which features are included in different versions of a product.
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What should be noted about ShubookSE:
1) You have two choices of reading progress indicator (% or an icon like in stanza)
2) You do get the swipe to brighten or dim
3) epub files which use the old formatting (not span/class) will display properly. Those which use span/class will not. Yet.

There are a lot of settings buried in two places. I didnt find the reading progress or swipe setting until their support dept told me where it was.
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@kyteflyer

Thank you for all your efforts in analysing a suitable alternative. I will probably stay with my current iOS (I'm a nostalgic, LOL!), and when I have no other choice left for other reasons and have to move to iOS 6 I will migrate to Shubook.

I appreciate what you have been doing in sharing your experiences, good or bad!
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My pleasure. I actually enjoy looking, analyzing, checking things out. I suppose I keep hoping that there will be an exact Stanza clone out there one day. I'm lucky I still have my original iPhone *and* had kept a copy of Stanza 3.1 which runs perfectly on that. So I am cheating a bit, because I'm about to revert to that for reading at home. Out and about, though, when I need the phone thats functioning, its the old 3GS with iOS6 and ShubookSE (and Stanza 3.2 even though its likely to die on the next update)
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Any recent news on Stanza and iOS 6?

I was happy to discover that eReader still works like a charm-- settings and all.

However, it displays the status bar much lower down, thereby revealing the time (which I had hidden under a piece of tape!).

Stanza, of course, does the same. Really wish Apple would finally give us the option of hide/show status bar--and/or picking what gets displayed there!
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Don't hold your breath, as far as I know, it will never be updated again.
As in the above posts give Shubook a look, I've switched and its at least 95% as good as Stanza was, happy reading...
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Well, if Apple would let us customize, hide/show the status bar, ye old eReader would be a great eReader in my book (ebook, that is! :-) )

Shubook is nice--full-featured, similar to, and even an improvement over Stanza in many ways. Just wish that it would show the unobtrusive bottom line indicator for where someone is in the book-- just there, all the time if one wishes it, and for the entire book, not just a chapter.
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I've begun using iBooks as well as shubook and stanza (yes really, I do), because I am really beginning to appreciate the bookmarking aspect... ie, my bookmarks are synced with my iPad iBooks.

One of the main issues I had with iBooks was margins on the phone. They were MASSIVE. Not on all books but on a few I tested out which I had acquired from elsewhere and added via calibre. I don't know if it was a setting I changed in Calibre (unlikely, I dont muck about with settings much) or if the iBooks coders have paid attention and now cause iBooks to respect the publisher settings... but big margins seem to be a thing of the past, making iBooks much more enjoyable to use. Now, if they would just allow full screen as a theme on the phone as they do on iPad, I would be a very happy camper. (and before anybody tells me a centre tap gets rid of the settings etc, I know that and its not what I am talking about... I want the top and bottom space hogging bars gone, too)
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iBooks, Nook, Kindle-- none of them can do an instant page turn, right? They each have some animation, which is distracting
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Marvin does. You can switch animations off in settings.
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kyteflyer, thanks for the heads up--I already downloaded it thanks to the comment below!

It just reinforces my point that the "biggies" are lacking-- and it's not just on the page turning front!

When does Marvin come out for the iPhone?

How does it compare to Stanza and eReader?

I'll have to try it on the iPad and see, but sometimes things get lost in translation.
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Anyone still watching these threads should now pay attention to a new iPad app (the dev will also be creating an iPhone app in the new year, hopefully with many sync possibilities). Its called Marvin, and in many respects is better than Stanza. The developer hangs out on mobileread.com and is very responsive to suggestions.

Marvin is free at the moment, so it would be worth getting whilst the getting is good. I think there will be a charge for it in future and I would think probably for the iphone app as well, if he does not make it Universal.