Convert to Advanced Template

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Bring back the convert to advanced template feature so you don't have to create from scratch when you just want to make minor changes.

zoile

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  • confused as to why this got removed?

Posted 5 years ago

Colleen, Typepad Community & Support

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We've gotten a lot of feedback about this and our development team is working on improving the flow for creating an Advanced Template. I don't know the status of that currently but improvements are definitely in the pipeline.

Rodolfo Araujo

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Does it mean that when changing from Basic to Advanced Templates you have to start it all over again? Well, I was considering upgrading my account, but I think I will abandon this idea...

Chris Mahns

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You sort of do have to start all over again but it isn't as hard as I thought it was going to be. It took me a few hours and most of that was spent acclimating myself to the new template syntax. One thing that does seem to get lost is the ability to drag and drop new and existing layouts around--or to change layouts, (say from two column right to three column left). Those are two things that I think would be cool--1) to be able to convert your existing basic template to an advanced one and 2) to be able to continue to use drag-and-drop for things like widgets or to re-arrange things around. Blogger allows this--if you switch to a custom template, you still have a layout wireframe view where you can add, remove or change the positioning of elements within sidebars.

Nick O'Neill

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Hi Zoile,

What kind of changes are you having to turn to advanced templates to make? I'd be great to know the minor changes for which people require advanced templates so that we can build these options into the basic templates.

zoile

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Nick,

Thanks for your response. On the top of the individual post pages, I want to remove the navigation links that read:

« "this post's title" | Main | "this post's title" »

I used the ticket system for this and was told by support that this can only be removed with an Advanced Template. Due to this, I upgraded to Pro and then realized the 'Convert to Advanced" feature no longer existed. Bummer. Is there another way around this?

Also, it's not necessarily a minor change, but I want to add some javascipt so the photo switches when customers scroll over buttons numbered 1, 2, 3 below the photo on a Page, but this can't be done without inserting the
javascript tag within the head tag in the index page. I want the site to look exactly the same as I have it designed with one of the Drag-and-Drop templates, just with this minor addition...so it's inconvenient to have to do an Advanced Template and redo all the code when I want it to look identical. Copying and pasting the css code from the Drag-and-Drop doesn't work. When I did that the site had similarities to the Drag-and-Drop but wasn't a replica of it.

Wehhh, that was a lot of info...hope that makes sense?!

Nick O'Neill

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Thanks Zoile! They do make sense, and we'll take them into consideration when thinking about how we can improve drag and drop designs in the future.

Martin Atkins

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Hi Zolie,

On my blog I removed those navigation links using Custom CSS, like this:

.content-nav {
display: none;
}

Until this can be made an option in "Organize Content" this is an easier workaround than switching everything to advanced templates.

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I've also heard lots of desire to be able to toss a little HTML or javascript up in the header, to do things like have a flickr slideshow rolling in your banner or add little js tricks like the one zoile mentioned.

Ryan Brown

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Yes please. I've been asked to add a category pulldown to a blog that is currently drag and drop template based. As far as I know the only way to add the pulldown to the blog is to recreate the whole blog as an advanced template and then add the pulldown. That seem overcomplicated to me.

Of course, I'd be very happy to hear other ways to add a category pulldown if there are any.

Colleen, Typepad Community & Support

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Ryan, you could create the menu manually. You'd just need the URL for each Category page and the tips here: http://kb.typepad.com/id/673

It might be time consuming when you first set it up but after that, you'd just have to add any new category links as they're added to the weblog.

Ryan Brown

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Thanks, Colleen, that's a perfectly good suggestion. However, it's impractical for my non-technical client who would need to be able to add categories via the Typepad UI and then have the links automagically appear in the menu.

miz_ginevra

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Ryan, do you think that your client might be able to provide you with some of the category concepts for you to help them build this, and you could use it as an opportunity to help them SEO-friendly up their category pages too?

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Just adding that loss of the ability to convert templates is a *huge* inconvencience. It was such a great feature before, but now it is almost impossible to work in advanced.

The whole idea is to have every possible element that appears on blog adjustable. For instance, container width and column width are very limited, and this should be open to adjustment, not locked into a few choices.

At least with conversion, I can get a basic blog set up, let conversion do the dirty work, and then tweak each element. Now, coming back to work on an advanced template makes days of work instead of hours.

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I too would like this option; I've not been using typepad long enough to have had it at all, but all I'm really looking to do is to switch the post name with the blog title on the post page, which I gather others are doing with advanced templates. This is for an organization's blog and I don't have the option really of making the blog name shorter, but when the posts show up in search engine results all I get is a truncated version of the blog name as the result heading.

miz_ginevra

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sorry for the delay in response on this one! you can change the post URL now in either advanced or basic templates. Here's more:
http://everything.typepad.com/blog/20...

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any rough timelines for getting the automatic conversion to advanced templates done? also I notice lots of different tutorials for advanced templates, is there one complete tutorial?

miz_ginevra

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A good place to start would be with the docs here:
http://support.typepad.com/cgi-bin/ty...

I hope this helps!

Craig McGinty

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A vote to bring back 'Convert to Advanced Templates' from me as well, the present way of working with the templates is adding greatly to my workload.

M. Susan Vaughn, Champion

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I agree! There should be an easier solution to converting to Advanced Templates from Basic Templates. Also, from the beginning, users should be able to make a choice. I know that when I signed my daughter up for a TypePad account of her own we wanted to start her off in Advanced Templates, however, we couldn't do that easily and instead had to create it under "Saved Designs" first. A lot of extra steps that seem unnecessary.

Ross

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I don't think "The company implemented this idea"

miz_ginevra

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my apologies - that was a mistake, probably my own!

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I can't see this has been implemented either. Is it still in beta and hasn't been rolled out yet? Is so, when?

Colleen, Typepad Community & Support

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All - we apologize for the confusion, the status of this topic was changed by mistake.

We do appreciate your feedback about this issue and are taking all of this into consideration.

chehector

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Hi Colleen ,
The saus of this post was changed to under consideration a year ago. Has any progress been made or has the idea been rejected.
An update would be appreciated

sbpoet

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Oh dear. I was just getting ready to do this, too.

JB

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I switched from Wordpress to Typepad hoping to get a better handle on the design of my blog with greater ease. I'm starting to think this was a mistake. There has to be a simpler way to maintain the sidebars once switching to Advanced templates. I should be able to do just as I would with one of the basic templates and click a button or create a new typelist and simply tell it where to go in the WYSISYG "Organize your content" page under Design.

What's even more ridiculous is the fact that a drop down box for archives and categories isn't a standard option when displaying archives on your blog. You have to switch your entire blog to an advanced design to get this feature. Sure, you could bother with hardcoding it into your template and having to go back in and add new months and new categories via code. This just seems so basic.

Hank Graber

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I'm totally bummed this feature was removed. Formerly I'd rough out a design using the WYSIWYG tools and then finish in Advanced. Mostly I have to integrate the look into the clients web site but getting all the widgets and layout done in a few minutes cut development time by about 80% compared to starting from scratch.

miz_ginevra

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I left this comment earlier, but curious if you'd trued using the new design flow on the beta yet - it's pretty slick. That, plus the new themes, and a bit of custom CSS - works a charm for me. (Biased over here, of course.)

adrian

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Occasionally I come back to Typepad to see how much progress has been made, frankly, this is one of the things that has kept my personal blog in Drupal, and my website in Joomla.

By removing this option Typepad classify the service in two users;

One. Those who do not mind the look of the website and,

Two. Those who care about the design of the website.

They thought the group two we would come with a web designer, but did not know they were making more difficult the job of web designer, and further, moving away user who likes to do things by himself.

I came back to find myself in the same situation, I'll be here about two months before packing to leave.

miz_ginevra

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if you haven't tried out the new design flow (especially in Beta) you should give it a whirl. I've found that building a custom theme from the ground up and adjusting with CSS has made a huge difference to how I approach design work in TypePad, and it's opened up all sorts of new ways to design great-looking sites.

Mark Beyer

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Typepad, what on earth were you thinking ? You eliminated a major selling point - that I could upgrade to advanced templates as my knowledge of web design increased. Fix this please, ASAP.

miz_ginevra

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I think the intent is to make it easier and less hack-y than just adjusting current themes. I know that it's frustrating, though, but if you've tried some of the new design flow stuff (especially with Mosaic or Magnetic) I think you'll see the direction that TypePad designs are taking.

Thanks for letting us know why this is important to you, and let us know if there's specific things you want to adjust in the design flow without having to know any in-depth web design.

adrian

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Ever heard say, No more deaf person, that the one who will not listen to others.

This topic started by saying "Bring back the convert to advanced template feature so you do not have to create from scratch when you just want to make minor changes."

I think the most important thing is this "..... so you do not have to create from scratch when you just want to make minor changes. "

However, the last entry of an employee of Typepad says "..... "I know that it's frustrating", though, but if you've tried some of the new design flow stuff....."

After seeing how long is this topic, (11 months ago) I think there's a serious problem in the ear with Typepad.

And I think that someone with power within Typepad does not understand that it is better to spend resources on developing the blog tool, bringing it closer to the CMS. Instead of spending resources on Social Media.

Joomla 1.6, Drupal 7 and Squarespace v6, will come doing enough to eat Typepad, but here, nobody realizes that.

Scottitude

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Been using TypePad for five years or so and 'm not aware that it's ever been marketed as or designed to be what you're calling a CMS.

It's a blog publishing tool/host designed, for the most part, for those that don't want or don't have the capability to run a server or put together plug-ins and modules like a bunch of Leggo blocks. AS for CMS, a little forethought and common sense is all I need. I put files in a logical order and when I need them they're there.

I agree that a simple way to convert and modify basic templates is needed.

I also agree with Six Apart's focus on social media; it's what they do. The slickest CMS in the world is nothing without the social factor and cross-platform connectivity to engage readers.

If you don't like the platform and feel as if nobody's listening then you may be better off using something else, perhaps one of those you mentioned above.

Oliver Stör

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Does not seem that they work on this at all. This was one of the features that made TypePad stand out from the others. In the past it was very easy to change a blog design using the predefined templates and switch to advanced for the final tweaks. With taking this ability away, a matter of minutes changed to hours.

Hank Graber

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Yes, I was able to offer small clients customized blogs using typepad at a very reasonable cost. I stopped doing typepad blogs for small clients as it just takes to long with the "improved" software making it to expensive.

james henry

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Really dumb retrograde move by Typepad on this one...conversion was so useful for getting off the ground...Also, has this really been debated for a year? It seems like users are screaming for it. Is Typepad just trying to jack up revenue for pro web designers?

simon

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Wow, I have been using typepad for a two weeks now. Reading a tutorial each time I want to add a new item to my page. Was all very easy! Then I get to a tutorial that requires me to create a new template module and the only place I can seem to find that option is to create one in advanced mode??

So I found another tutorial in regards to converting a design into advanced mode and it sounds really easy except for the fact I CAN'T find the convert to advanced button on the design page!

So I do another search and I find this thread. Are you serious sixapart? A whole year of customers saying "put this option back" and sixapart employees saying " We don't have the porsche anymore, but the hyundai is pretty reliable. You should try that!"

I have been happy with the interface so far. But it seems you want to dictate what your customers want.

The only thing more crazy than not listening to your customers must be myself wasting time writing in here, when I obviously have the opinion you aren't interested in anything I or anyone else here has to say. : )

chehector

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HI this has been under consideration for a year. Could a staff remember respond and say whether this idea of bringing back the convert feature will happen in the future or whther it has been rejected. I doubt it takes a whole year to decided on whther a feature should return.

I purchased Typepad unlimited 2 days ago and I think ill be downgrading. I just want to add a google "news sitemap" and unfortnately I need to use advanced templates to do this. Whwich would mean i would have to redo my whole page from scratch which could take days.

I am now considering moving to wordpress becuase on wordpress there is a simple pluging for creating a google "new sitemap"

It would be really nice to get a response.

Kymberlie, Official Rep

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Hi there,

This idea hasn't been rejected, but we don't have a time frame for when this may be incorporated back into TypePad.

We do appreciate you letting us know how important this is for you, though, and that will help us in determining a possible time when it may be added back.

Thanks,
Kymberlie

ryvaeus

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Has there been any progress on this? I'm eager to convert my layouts to advanced templates.

Kymberlie, Official Rep

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Hi there,

We haven't had a chance to add this back into TypePad yet.

Thanks,
Kymberlie

Eleanor De Bondy

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Just wondering if typepad is seriously looking at adding this feature back still?

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