I’m concerned for other users

IP Ban for Members App.

My site has been raided by trolls and abusers months ago and I've noticed that there isn't a way to ban them temporary, permamently, OR by IP. So i was wondering if you can add a banning system that allows the site owners to ban users from SEPRATE things, like if you ban someone from the forums, they can still use the video gallery for example.

I was also wondering if you can make it so that the moderators of the sites can ban people AND have seprate types of moderators (ex. Forum mod, video mod, photo mod, ect.) and make it so that you can delete user's profile pictures if they are innapropiate.
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    Cool Idea. Im not i webs Helper But, all webs need to do is support htaccess. and you could upload a code to it:
    ## USER IP BANNING

    order allow,deny
    deny from 42.13.6.32
    deny from 212.172.49.
    deny from 69.241.
    deny from 81.143.4
    allow from all

    That code bans them IP's
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    I support this. We need a way to temporarily and Permanently ban members and IP addresses. It's only natural that we would want to do this. Not everyone out there is a nice person.
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    • well it won't mention but automatically detect that same person under a different account.
    • If I ban them by blocking their IP or email, I don't want them back, the people who are members of my site won't want them back either, they were banned because of spamming or trolling, OUT don't come back!! If I suspect an aplicant is unsuitable I don't let them in, if they keep trying I want to permanently block them! My site is peculiar to military veteran persons of a particular location and time. So it is very obvious if a new applicant isn't genuinley interested and wants to troll and/or spam. So, my case is stated, as site owner, I should have that facility at my discretion.
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  • I’m excited
    Yes, this needs to be implemented.
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    All Webs needs to do is just put a reCaptcha on the Webs ID sign up page to prevent bots from automatically getting in and vandalizing websites. I'm very surprised they haven't done this yet when the system was introduced years ago!
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  • Eric (Official Rep) May 06, 2011 20:59
    Luke,

    There is currently a captcha on the registration page and on the sign up page.

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    This needs to be done. Been having people post innapropriate links on the forums and it's getting out of hand
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    maybe a captcha before posting a comment? but admins really need a tool to ban IPs
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    Just thought, the problem with Webs implementing an IP ban system would cause a lot of trouble on the network, particularly from a particular computer.. their network can slow down. Also, another problem with this idea is, what if a friend of the original owner's computer is banned from accessing? That doesn't ban the user, that just bans the entire computer completely and the owner, if he/she is an owner of a website, would not be able to access Webs at all.

    A more appropriate alternative would be to implement a Profile suspension, giving the profile of higher permission level to set the suspension for. I would propose the following idea to a sub-page within the Member settings, and of the given options:


    • Member (the option to choose the member, effectively by typing to search the member)

    • Suspension Type (specific types could be: temporary, permanent and manual)

    • Length (the length of time in months/weeks/days/hours; option not available when permanent is selected)

    • Log member activity (a checkbox stating whether to log member activity. This option will only be available when the Manual option is selected on Suspension Type. This also gives the moderator, administrator or site owner the ability to manually address suspension when the member appears suspicious at a given time, at which the ban will not be applied until the moderator/admin/site owner manually applies it after so much time. The option will be delayed for 24 hours, by which time it will automatically deactivate if the member is not suspended within this set time)

    • Prompt User (if checked, the Profile will be prompted that an investigation has been applied. This sends an email to the profile user.)

    • Description (an alternative which is optional, allowing the suspender to give a description of why the suspension is being made.)

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    Two problems - Dynamic IP Addresses AND ISPs that reuse IP addresses. I think most ISPs give you a dynamic IP, including myself. My IP address changes every 24 hours. ISPs that reuse IP addresses would be an obvious issue, someone that has never done anything wrong would be banned from your website.

    An alternative suggestion would be to require email verification before they are enabled to post at all. This would make them have to WORK to spam your forum, making new legitimate email addresses every new account.

    Another alternative (not sure if possible) would be a MAC Address Ban. That computer's unique ID would be banned permenantly, so that specific computer could never create new accounts or anything on your website.

    The problem with an MAC Address ban would be if they're using a public library computer or something, that computer would be perma-banned from your website.
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  • I’m confused
    Is there a way to block a specific ip address from accessing my site? they keep bouncing on and off my site every hour or so, i think they are trying to mess with my rankings on google? or my bandwidth? any ideas greatly appreciated. I think it might be a bot or something like that?

    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    Can i block a specific ip address from visiting my site??.
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  • i agree with this as i think it would help people's website's out. the only thing i dont like about the idea is the ip ban as om with luke on it also
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  • I’m very concerned
    I really think there needs to be something like this implemented into the system. I really do not like the fact that you cannot suspend or ban a user out of your website. I really do not want to deal with trolls and people that can't follow rules on my site. One of the main reasons for that is I want my site to be a family friendly site and if I cant get rid of troublemakers from abusing my site then no one will trust their kids or even want to be associated with people like that and that can hurt my site population. For example I really like what Luke Selman said on this and his way of doing that. It would really make everyone a lot happier and feel safer and relaxed using your service, thanks guys!
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  • There is no program to do so, there is a file to do so, named .htaccess but it is not allowed on webs.com, and there is no way to ban via IP Address
    I have recently spoken to Support Chat, and have been told that they plan on implementing something to ban people, for a certain amount of time.
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  • ABILITY TO BLOCK I.P

    its strongly suggested that webs include the ability to block i.p addresses from subdomains created on webs.com so that users have futher ability to comply with the terms and conditions. Please note the quoted section from your terms and conditions includes "terminate repeat infringers". well some people have removed members accounts from thier website only for them to be able to still log in. and we cant block peoples i.p's so how are we meant to terminate these repeat infringers?!

    As a Website Creator, you agree to have a policy for removing infringing Content and terminating repeat infringers that complies with the DMCA. In addition, you agree to promptly (and in any event in no later than 24 hours) address any copyright owner's written notice (including any notices forwarded to you by Webs) that specified Content posted on a Website that you control infringes that third-party's rights (including copyrights), provided that the notice substantially complies with the requirements in the DMCA. If you receive a counter-notice from the applicable User instructing you to replace the allegedly infringing Content, you agree to promptly comply with it to the extent required by law and to forward a copy of it to Webs. Webs may remove any allegedly infringing Content without any liability to you or to the User that posted such Content. In all such matters, we strongly recommend that you consult your attorney to confirm your obligations under the DMCA and other applicable laws. You are solely responsible and liable for complying with all applicable laws in connection with your Website.

    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    give us the abolity to block i.p's and comply with your T&C.
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    we need a way off blocking ip address's from persistant abusers to the websites we create, especially if you have purchased your site, lets see if something can come of this, i think its a good idea and useful tool to have

    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    ip address blocking for ur site.
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  • Hello i make this topic because i think .webs should people give more acces if they work harder for his website.

    I have now 100.000 site members.
    But i still cant block my own members on IP.

    I need this because i have spammers.
    If i use the .webs abuse service it cost me more time.

    I hope people will support this plan.
    Im a big user with daily 10.000 people.
    I really think people will like this plan and will work harder if they have more options.

    I understand the private things like IP is not legal to share.
    But remember big sites gets more bad mails because people like this!

    Please help us out.

    Grtz SamFirmware.com (A website for your Samsung Phone!)

    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    High .Webs services.
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  • I'm getting a problem too, a facility to block ip's and domains is a necessary feature for webmasters and admin. Spambots don't take NO for an answer, they just keep reapplying, you HAVE to be able to block their IP and/or domain. Declining each attempt seperately invokes the risk of deleting a legitimate membership application!
    Captcha can be bypassed quite easily these days, fortunately the manual registration setting prevents access into the site, but it doesn't stop spambots clogging up the `Manage Members' Lists, with the foementioned risks.
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  • If you're REALLY desperate for banning an IP on your Forum

    You'll want to use http://www.serversfree.com and signing up an account with them, and then using their Auto-Installer and installing phpBB Forum Software.
    It is only thing out there, I know that can ban Emails, IPs, Usernames, etc.

    Another site that you can download phpBB, by signing up for an account with them, is: http://www.cixx6.com
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  • Okay Michael, but will that inhibit unwanted spammers joining the site and spamming the sites own blog and forum? I have installed a phpBB forum in my site accessed from the side bar, but no-one has joined it yet. This may be because it requires users to sign up and log in, when they have already done so to access the site. To restate what is required, we need some way of filtering out `spambot' applications at scource. To register on a Webs site, you give a `username', `email address' and a `password' with double check. the email is the only identifying information given, from this is read, the IP and Domain of the visitor. Using the manually accept option, the site owner or admin can accept or reject the application. If the application is rejected, the spambot reapplies on its next pass. So you end up repeatedly `weeding' out the `Manage Members' page, if you leave the spambot aplication `to stew', the spambot will stall, its next pass just `pings' the entry. You are then left with a usless list of spambots mixed with genuine applicants in your `Manage Members' page list. A less than desireable situation, that could be resolved if blocking an IP or domain could be implemented at that juncture. A severe reaction, true, but the ONLY way to stop an automated computer that is ceaslessly trawling the net, on course for every available website that has a blog, forum or guestbook.

    It does seem from the incidents on my site, one particular `bot' is targeting Webs's sites, eg. nahm.ym.ailon.l.y.w.eb.s@gmail.com the periods in the name are shifted periodicaly, the IP and email of this `bot' is refered to on several websites involved in databases for spammers.

    regards
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  • If they have to sign up, on the PHPBB FORUM, their profile will have info in it somewhere, that says the IP they registered from, their email, and their username.
    On the PHPBB FORUM, you can ban via Email, IP, and Username, but the site itself, as in your webs.com site, I assume. The site itself, does not currently offer a ban feature for Email, IP or Username, it will be posted in the section for that when they implement it.

    I am also not sure, about Bots, and banning them, etc.

    If you wish to contact me personally, regarding this issue, please use the email: knightriderinfohelp@gmail.com with the subject: Webs.com IP Ban for Members App.
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  • I think being able to ban members would be good instead of deleting them if they get out of hand

    to me deleting them seems harsh
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  • For normal members Chris, you'd be right. But the latest spambot trick is to join as a member, then gain access to the guestbook, forum or blog and spam it FULL! If you KNOW that they're a spammer or spambot and they persist in their attempts, a permanent ban on there email or IP is the only option. Members who default the rules are different, a short suspension is sufficient. Members whos only purpose was to spam it up, delete AND ban them! Cyberyobs are unwelcome, anywhere.
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    It seems that this topic has been going on for over 12 months now, and is still not addressed. I have just chatted with webs help line and they still haven't done anything about it. It would seem that they don't really care that much , other websites have a security section on their control panel where you can block a single IP address, multiple IP addresses or a range of IP addresses. Everyone who owns and organises their own website must send an email to webs suggest they include a security section in the control panel or you find a website which already has one and migrate accross to the new website.
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  • There quick enough to take your money but VERY VERY SLOW at delivering what we the customers ask for!! If they dont sharpen up there act soon... Im off to another provider!!
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  • I’m frustrated
    Is there a way to even ban people now? I notice these comments have been from a year ago... 2 years ago and i still don't see any way to ban the user temp or permanently or the ip.
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  • I’m frustrated
    It doesn't look like they're listening, this was raised here 1146 days ago!

    I'm definitely moving away from Webs at this rate. They've removed my custom 404 page which was working fine so they can use their own; probably to push the two adverts to more people, not bothering about their already paying customers.

    Support will be quick to tell you that everything to ask about is in the pipeline and they're looking at implementing. I don't think I've seen a positive change in the last year.

    I don't even care about bumping this thread, I'm out of here.
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