I will be participating in "Earth Hour" by turning "ON" every single light I can find, the furnace, space heaters, outdoor lights, etc; and I am going to burn them all night long...just to make up for the "sheep" who turn their lights off!
Hell, I'm even going to "burn" as many candles as I can find..outside...just to "warm" up the environment, you: Al Gore goof-ball, do-gooder, make no sense, wannabe environmental scientists.
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EMPLOYEE0Hi Real Gail
Can you tell us what drives you to this strongly held position?
I thought your argument behind why we should not remove this topic had a great point behind it. Can you do the same as to why you want burn candles and turn on all the lights you can find?
We have every respect for your opinion - even and especially when it differs from ours. It's just that we can't discuss a comment in the frame that you wrote it.
Hope you understand where this is coming from.
And thanks again for a great response to the topic removal.
Perhaps what Real Gail is trying to say is that a large mass of people shutting off their lights for one hour will have little immediate material impact on the global carbon footprint. If my assumptions are correct, electricity suppliers won't (can't) likely simultaneously reduce output for an hour. Even if they can and do, the effect on the environment will be negligible.
What Real Gail apparently fails to understand is that Earth Hour is primarily a campaign to draw awareness to climate change and conservation in general and create a sense of solidarity in working towards a practical solution in achieving sustainability of resources, namely reducing the carbon footprint to a sustainable level by using fewer carbon-based energy sources - starting with turning stuff off when you're not using it. It's a simple, and especially if done en masse, effective means of impacting energy use.
Gail's post points to the importance, not the irrelevance, of initiatives like Earth Hour in educating people and eventually achieving small but sustainable behavior change on a massive scale.
FYI, I am very "conservative" when it comes to turning off lights, utilities, water, etc. I happen to live in an area where I don't consider it to be "cold" during the winter; and, as a result, I have done something none of you probably have ever done.
Ever since I have lived in Richmond, Virignia, I have NEVER turned the heat or air-conditioning on, since I've lived here (almost 8 years). I have a "great" utility bill...very, very low.
My biggest problem with the "global warming" effort which is growing in "epidemic" proportions, is a myth based on "scaring" the uninformed and uneducated into believing differently, in order to generate monies for those perpertrating this hoax.
Hence, the reason I will "Turn On" these utilities, as my own personal belief regarding same...(which is my perogative)...unless Obama eliminates another right or choice, before the "Lights Out." LOL....
"Panic Slowly"...my dear; as it's not going to happen! Just keep reading the "doom & gloom" forecasts the enviro-nuts spew, which will only keep you up at night "burning" additional lamp light.
After all, they even had to change the original "global warming" definition in order to reflect this year's "cold" winter, (which indirectly, they will find a way to blame it on "global warming," just to keep the hype going; and, the money coming in).
Mother Earth has been around "forever"....and, will continue to "thrive" despite what humanity does...or does not do.
EMPLOYEE0Hi Real Gail
Your personal actions in order to keep your utility bills low are admirable indeed.
But if I may say, ever since its inception some 10 or more years ago, WWF's work on this issue has always been named the "Climate Change Programme".
It actually did us a disservice in the early years because people on the web would search for "Global Warming"... which meant our information and our work on this issue was not so easily found.
I think if we disagree about anything, it is only the rate at which Climate Change is happening?
As far as I know, many scientists would not disagree with you that Climate Change in itself is a natural phenomenon.
However it is the *speed* at which it is now changing that is of concern.
In the past, animals and plants had time to adapt or move. This time round that may not be the case.
Not sure these links will be of interest to you, but just in case
Many thanks for taking the time to express your views.
Good Morning WWF Employee..thanks, for responding.
I agree with any/all efforts to save animals from extinction by humans; however, I rule out climate control as a viable reason, at the present time.
I once took an "environmental biology" class while in college. From this class I learned, the "human race" would become extinct within approximately 5 million years, just due to natural evolution and species longevity. That is, if they did not "blow" themselves up first.
Al Gore's uneducated take on "global warming" has probably done your organization a great deal of harm.
With the multiple problems that face the world today, global warming, climate control, etc., don't even make my list at the moment.
We have an economic crisis going on worldwide, Islamic nuts, and Muslim terrorists who have promised to do more harm to the human race, than anything Mother Earth has planned for us.
Additionally, here in the United States, we are now "stuck with" a Junior Senator from Illinois, as President, with the middle name of "Hussein" (a mere 7 years after 9/11); who wants to close Guantanamo and free Muslim terrorists; reduce our national security budget; appointed a "tax-evader" as the Treasury Secretary; wants to turn the entire world into "group socialism"'; and, in general, has no clue as to what he is doing...and to coin a phrase approrpriate to environmental issues: he is "two steps above plant life" as far as issues and solutions are concerned.
I can only imagine what uplifting remarks Obama will utter at the G20 Conference? That is,,,,if he remembered to bring along his "tele-prompter." Although, Obama will "throw in" some reference to "global warming" just to keep the hype going, and the money flowing in, as he is really "big" on windmills...which will never meet the demand for energy. Obama only sees "jobs for people" making and marketing useless windlmills, while at the same time, damning the "coal" industry, which supplies 65% of the energy used in the United States.
With Obama, the "leader of the free world" sending the Iranian Ayatollah a "why can't we all just get along" video; freeing Muslim terrorists; and, having no national security experience...Islamic radicals couldn't be happier with this scenario.
Only the animals will surive.
It is very sad that your country haven't had many intelligent thinking presidents so far and that education has been somewhat neglected of this reason. The human race will not become extinct in approximately 5 million years, although we might blow ourselves up. The risk of being blown in the air does not increase when you have an intelligent president who releases innocent people and tries to communicate with the "terrorists" before bombing them and accidently also bomb the rest of their country.
I don't think his middle name or his experiance of the muslim world will lead to worse relations between countries.
Now back to Earth Hour and the enviorment. The thing you don't seem to understand is that we are dependent on animals, or at least other organisms. Without food we can not live and thereby we will die if the animals die. Whether animals are intelligent and have feelings I will not discuss although I have no doubt they are. We can not destroy our planet, life will always find a way just like in Jurassic Park. Therefore it is not for the animals we care about the enviorment but for ourselves.
20% of all the people in this world live of 80% percent of its resources. Our biggest problem is overweight and lack of work. The rest of the 80% live of 20% of our planets resources. These 80%, thats not Africa, it's everyone who doesn't live in Northern America or Western Europe. Africe live of nothing. We people of the west might not realise the impact we make on mother earth but the people starving, the people who had the now almost extinct blue tuna (4.3 m) as their primary food source, they realise it.
I agree with you about global warming being a hype and people being smug. It is happening but there are other more important enviormental issues. Earth Hour will not save the world either but as said above it was just a manifestation.
There are more important issues in the world today than global warming but almost none as important as the enviorment. Many people are starving and if we don't take good care of our resources many more will be.
I hope president Obama is as intelligent and sympatic as he makes himself appear in his book. In that case he might be able to help this world become a better place.
Good Morning Oskar:
I love this site...it's like having a "pen-pal" in Australia! Now, regarding your comment.
Don't get me wrong. I am a card-carrying, Flag-waving, proud to be an American, kind of girl. Just because Barack "Hussein" Obama happens to be my President right now, doesn't change my thinking.
As far your naive beliefs that those "innocent" Muslim terrorists should be released "back into the wild," you couldn't be more mistaken. I guess you haven't read about the Taliban's "threats" to attack Washington, D.C., "very soon," as they reported yesterday?
If these radical "nuts" determine this would be a wise move on their part, I just pray that Obama has the "balls" to "nuke" the country they represent, back into the "Jurassic Park" time zone!
As far as Obama's "books" that he allegedly authored, and you have read...there is a distinct possibility they were penned by Bill Ayres...one of our country's "wannabe" homegrown terrorists leftover from the 60's. Bill & Obama have quite a close "history" together in Chicago; and, he mirrors Ayres beliefs and style of writing. Obama also follows the teachings and practices of Saul Alinsky..."Google" them.
I'm for saving "all the animals" on this planet. Unfortunately, that will only be possible, if: radical Muslim terorrists don't make the "second" biggest mistake, in their miserable lives, by attacking the United States, again.
If that does occur...take it from another (child of the 60's)....get ready to "Rock & Roll"..Baby! The United States of America will do some really "Dirty Dancing."
Go Marines...Semper FI....