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MetalStorm: Wingman News (UPDATED)

UPDATE:

At Z2live we take feedback seriously. We love our community, and so we'd like to give you a more specific update on what you can look forward to in the coming weeks:

- Re-working the plane and missile physics to be closer to the original MetalStorm: Online
- We've heard player's feedback on cannons, so we're going to give you the old system you've grown to love
- Fixing multiplayer bugs that have come up in this release (target indicators/ respwan)

The team is working diligently to get a revision out to you as soon as possible. Stay tuned for more details!

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Thank you for all your feedback about MetalStorm: Wingman! We’ve been listening to your feedback and concerns and will be re-balancing the game physics. We will keep you updated while we work to make MetalStorm: Wingman the best game it can be.
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  • Well, MSO Winman has been deleted from all of my apple devices.

    I guess I would try for a re-balanced vesion.
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  • Danusha, with all due respect, your not getting the point. You would have to completely redesign this entire app and that's not going to happen. Just give us the old version back, hackers and all! I would rather pay a fee for the unupdated version then spend a dime on the Wingman game. Many of us feel the same, seriously.
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  • I’m frustrated
    I officialy hate the game, ive lost 100+ sp to noobs!!! this game makes EVERYTHING look like an agility plane!!! the cannons are worthless now, vs is laggy as hell, AIs in survival are making it impossible to get to even wave five, bisnos are 100% undodgeable what so ever, and the game auto syncs before each game so i have to recalibrate every game. i like the new setup with the aiming but i can care less about my speed and altitude. i also like the new sounds. but now, its just crap. everytime i die i respawn with the guy already firing at me, everytime i kill them they respawn invvisable and i cant kill them so i turn out dead. fix EVERYTHING NOW causeim a loyal fan of MSO and now its bust.
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  • The main problem that needs fixing is the horrendous bug where the enemy plane spawns invisible behind you, and you no matter which way you turn or use the reverse camera, you can't find them. It's basically a free kill.

    The gameplay changes themselves have a lot of promise and I think needs more time to evaluate what is good and bad.

    Fix the spawn problem ASAP and people will be able to decide a lot better how they feel about all the changez to plane acceleration, gun physics etc. It's easy to day it all sucks when you lost so much XP to newbies because they spawned behind you invisible. Fix the spawns.
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  • Don't bother fixing things in this game.This is not and will be MSO.
    Z2Live says it's a update I see a total NEW GAME that comes with a game play that has nothing to do with MSO in any single aspect.
    This is a 100% replacement which testing of it began several months ago due apples iOS5 release.
    So I don't buy that kind of excuses of bugs and so on.
    Z2Live wants to hold everybody on a leech because they realized that they brought themselves in very instable marketing position by releasing this piece of garbage.
    I don't trust Z2Live anymore.To much lies in short time.
    The Update in the previous version due hacking issues was totally rewritten within 2 weeks !!!.
    And now after seas of time testing they come with this shit.
    MARKETING MISCALCULATION thats there priority number 1.
    And to save that they need us.And even in this situation they brought themselves in they won't give in to ones they need.
    Z2live you mislead and abuse people for your benefits to save your instable coop.

    GIVE US MSO BACK AND YOU GET YOUR COOP BACK.
    IF YOU LET US DROWN IN THIS SHIT YOU GAVE YOU DROWN WITH US.

    SHOW SOME RESPECT AND LET GO THE LEECH
    BECAUSE YOU OW US NOW

    the majority doesn't by that crap anymore

    DEAL OR NO DEAL
    • Hi everybody. In fact with some reflexion i actually know that the old version of MSO was like a unique diamond. Z2live have created in one shot a game the game that many videors were looking for many years. This diamond was already brilliant, with just a few problem. Sometimes these pbs were boring me and you all guys. But we continue to play. This game is just like a drug but a very good one. And when you play against someone stronger than u and when you beat him that's so good. Yes maybe, Z2live should go back and restore the old version. I suggest them to improve just the pb of cheaters, the pb of people who volontary die or suicide with no point in compenation. The pb of connexion. But really remember what was the old MSO a fantactic game quite perfect so when u have the quite perfetion don't try to change it deeply. Other solution, give us 2 applications. One with old mso and the other one MSW. I am sure the old one would be for a long time the favourite of everybody. I am 007FGTH in the game.
    • It doesnt work!!! They should have tested it FIRST. Entirely to many problems . Cant get used to something that sucks compared to the first one. Should have left well enough alone.
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  • My suggestion:

    Reset the game mechanics to EXACTLY the same that they were prior to the update, most importantly the physics of the cannons and the stats of the missiles (missiles track better and are faster now, and even though it can be cool, I hate it, it makes missiles WAY OP).

    Cannons that force you to lead your target are just way to realistic for a casual game that people have come to love and get used to, and spend money on (I surprise myself how much I have spent and was planning to spend on this game, as long as it stays casual I might would spend more). And missiles that track better and are faster make the coin missiles unavoidable, and weapons planes are given a huge advantage. All matches are now just long distance, boring duels (could it really be called that?) about who can press the fire button fastest, and who has the missiles with the bigger boom. As far as missiles and cannons go, my opinion is to revert them to EXACTLY how they used to be before the 4.0 update.

    I like the new HUD, it is nifty and a nice touch, but some people disapprove. My suggestion is to have an option (maybe under the iDevice "Settings" Application, with the other application settings) to toggle the Altimeter and Speedometer, and a option to toggle the old and new reticle (maybe give the old one a new color job to match the new HUD color). Not as necessary as the changes that urgently need to be made to cannons and missiles, but it would be nice.

    The new plane speed physics is cool, and I don't really know how it will effect game play if (once) you make changes to the missile and cannon mechanics. At first I thought that increased speed in a dive would lead to crash-draw abuse, but I see that you made it so that any crash counts as a kill, regardless of damage (I commend you on this, it was a much requested exploit that you fixed). Once the issue with cannon-missile imbalance is fixed (by fixed I mean reverted back to the original), I will report back with how I feel about the speed tweaks, but for right now, all I can say is that you can reach the boundaries WAY to fast, going top speed towards the sky takes half the time to reach auto-pilot altitude than it used to, and the normal speed seems faster than the afterburner speed on the old version.

    Please, before introducing any new planes (It pains me to say this, I REALLY want the Sukhoi PAK-FA T-50 with my updated proposed stats), make fixes to the cannons and missiles and revert them exactly to how they were prior to the update, so that this game can once again be the favorite of many high-paying players that make up the top 1000 of the leader-boards, the ones who will actually return to the game after playing it once.

    While the numbers are small, there are those that have given up on this game and moved on to other (non-free) games that are similar to how MSO used to be. However, no game on the market could come close to the old MSO in terms of enjoyably, this is (or was, rather) my favorite and most-played iOS game ever, and I still would be coming back for more if the core components of the game hadn't been fundamentally changed to something that is not an update, but rather something that is different entirely. I do, however, hold a hope that the voices of a minority will be heard and listened to (two different actions entirely), and that MSO, or rather MSW, will revert back to its old game mechanics and entice old players and aces (and high paying customers) to play the game once again.

    Regards,

    [WarWolf] Beta
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    • I feel like this is a very old version of MS. It is like playing Call of Duty 3 after playing Black Opps. No, it is more like going from windows to dos! The next update will be in black and white.
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  • I’m Sad... Really sad
    I was an early player, and fairly higly ranked (5%)... So I sorta know about the game... This version sucks! Speed, AI plane strategy, cannons, display... All inferior to MSO. IMHO.

    Please bring back MSO! I think you forgot to do a substantial beta test.

    Such a good game. So sad to say so long!
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  • Whilst z2 have obviously worked very hard on Wingman, it seems a shame that they have neglected the old saying that goes something like this:

    If it isn't broke, then don't try to fix it.

    As over 4 million people have downloaded this app, it would seem obvious that they were doing something right. And whilst any attempts to improve the game should be applauded, it's a real shame that this has led to a degradation of the game. Whilst some of the new features are indeed good, many are not. Therefore, in order assist z2 to recover this situation I have compiled a number of suggestions in order to facilitate restoring MSO to it's former glory.

    Firstly, a number of good things to note. The new environments are good – there appears to me to be no less clarity as some have suggested and it's nice to have different areas to fly in. Additionally, the campaign mode is a step in the right direction - although of course there are niggles, like the need for coins instead of credits to continue etc, but in general the campaigns are a good addition. However, an addition is should have been, the functionality of the game was very good as it was. Therefore, let us move onto the areas that seem to need to be addressed:

    - The cannons seem to be very hard to use now. There doesn't seem to be much indication when you are actually hitting the target. Previously when you hit the enemy this was indicated by little orange glows.

    - The Red arrow indicators don't seem to accurately relay your opponents position – and if they do they show that opponents can now fly in very unpredictable and unrealistic ways. Perhaps this is down to server lag or something of that sort, but it the jerky nature of the jets movement, the unrealistic speed makes for a very frustrating game.

    - The additional altitude etc indicators are unnecessary. They don't aid flying at all and simply take us screen space and prove to be a distraction. Why not just try and keep the intrusion of info and controls to a minimum? On this note, the addition of what I can only assume is meant to be parts of cockpit window seem unwarranted and again, take us viewing space.

    - The distance the plane moves forward when accelerating seems excessive and causes the missiles to launch from behind your plane. In fact, in some of my tests my missiles seemed to fail to launch at all – or appeared to be firing in reverse!

    - The sound effects are not really an improvement and whilst this is not a major issue they may become annoying - especially the 'flange' effect which makes things sound compressed and artificial.

    - At one point, my jet disappeared. I was still flying and being hit by my opponent, but I couldn't see my plane – probably just a bug.

    I am sure there are a lot of other issues that need to be addressed, but I think that will do for now. This was a truly great game, but at the moment it seems the only winners are the partners of those who were formerly addicted to playing it - as now they will now have more time and money to spend with each other.
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  • @danusha : i have been asking for last 3 days..
    there is no campaign mode in my game..
    where is it???do you guys mind responding????
    • Due to the massive number of changes to the game and its content some players on older devices will be unable to take part in campaigns. The device requirements for MetalStorm: Wingman Campaigns are:
      • Phone 3GS
      • iPhone 4
      • iPhone 4S
      • iPod touch (3rd generation)
      • iPod touch (4th generation)
      • iPad
      • iPad 2
      • Requires iOS 4.1 or later.
      If you are not seeing Campaigns as a listed option, you may have to upgrade your device. While Campaigns may not be available, we will continue to support older devices with patches and updates for Survival and Versus modes of the game.
    • What gb is iod 3rd gen
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  • I’m pissed
    Man, I was ranked like #4,000 played this game for hours on end, now I deleted it. Wingman flat out sucks. They will now have to scramble to get the old loyal players back ,to no avail,...I will tell you why:

    1. This whole upgrade was about $$$, them trying to make more, instead they screwed it up so bad, they will lose $$$.
    Coins to continue in campaign mode? Oh, ok, that would be like "Angry Birds" charging you to save completed levels. Stupid move.

    2. Cannons are now useless.

    3. In campaign mode, direct hits with missiles cause NO damage whatsoever to targets,....yeah.....thats realistic. At least could a boat be crippled a little after hit, or an artillery gun be destroyed with one hit....like the real world?

    4. Missiles fire invisibly. I hear them firing ,. .. .but where are they,....and why are they so slow now.

    5. Long story line with cheezy cartoons in campaign mode,....god I hope they didnt pay those "actors"....seems like company execs wanting ego time, with absolutely no care for being succinct.

    6. Bisnovat missile unvavoidabe,....yeah thats real fun. NOT . Even having them feels like cheating. But then again, they want you to feel like you have to have them,....I mean BUY them.

    7. Altimeter? Speed? yeah, ok....real important while Im sitting on my couch. IDIOTS> Way to clutter the screen with absolutely useless green lines that obscure the orginal beautiful scenery

    You want my advice? Give us back the old game, charge people for new planes, and cool customization, but dont be so stupid as to charge people to have invincible missiles and planes, so that everyone else quits.

    Use your heads, and fire whatever kiss ass told you Wingman was needed, because he is obviously doesnt know a flipping thing about gameplay.

    Metal Storms new motto : "If it aint broke, RUIN it"

    All in the name of greed.
    • Couldn't say it better I agree 100% with your statements.
      I'am also pretty high ranked(205 last time I looked) and I have also REMOVED this worthless piece of garbage of my device.
      I don't understand people complaining about this so called update and still keep playing.
      I find this very strange but respect that choise.
      But I won't play any game I dislike and MSW is on that list now to unless the gameplay as it was comes back.
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  • I thought Id give it another shot...I JUST PLAYED SOMEONE AND COULDNT EVEN FIRE MY MISSLES....REALLY, COME ON!!!
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  • I know, I'm losing SR points like it's my job! They are working on it at least.
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  • Tomhyland09 is right u need to really sack the dude who screwed this game up. I loved playing this game and half the time now its just crap
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  • The new update is great eventhough I do prefer the old cannon aiming/sound. The altimeter and speed readings are a great idea. The new camera view is also very nice.
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    • Who's talking about cash.
      I only spend a few dollars on plane and upgrades.
      That's it...
      I don't fight with bought ammo just standard.
      It is PROFEN that U don't need that shit in previous version.
      Nothing to do with MIND and REFLEXES but FEELING.
      My slow mind and reflexes your are assuming has brought me by the last 200 players.
      Skill matters not meters it's total bullshit.
      Perhaps a fuelmeter suites U to
    • He he.... Good point.
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  • Just played K.S.A...great player..STILL CANT FIRE MISSLES. I watch my missle count when I fired and I heard them fire and the missle count was dropping but no visable missle launch. Its like they were blanks..HORRIBLE !!
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  • Iam loosing SR and spots in the chart. I reached top 200 now I'm like 250 noobs are killing me with hardly any skill!!!! Come on z2 this game is for nearly all ages, not for 5yr olds (where all players are equal and you don't keep score) I pretty much have stopped playing the new game.

    Either release the old version I spent all my money on or atleast refund the money that was thrown away if it will not be returning. This is a totally different game many ppl are tired of saying it. This version will get none of my money unless it's back to old configuration. I don't understand why you have to even take the old version off and make this one a requirement. I played this game up to 5 hrs a day before the update, now I don't even play at all
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  • I’m SAD
    God, all these people are saying exactly what i am feeling This is really crazy, I too was on this game four hours and hours and spent like 20 dollars a month for a long time on Bisnos. i was ranked top 5% and now it makes me sick to play at all. Someone said they "used to break out in a sweat" when they played. My pulse would almost always increase during close games Thanks for all the memories but now this game is done. Either put it back the way it was or close up shop. This is very depressing.
    I always complained about the hackers to you guys and said you did not care. I regret complaining about the hackers. Let them hack, I beat them anyway most of the time. Give me back my game, please?

    BJJDUDE2
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  • Id rather have the old version with the hackers then the new version without the hackers and i like most others have spent money on this game. I myself have spent over £65 = $105 at least so kindly give us our game back or u can give me my money bk. Ur choice dude. Lease make it a good one cuz to be honest i would like to continue playing this game. Oh yea even tho i reinstalled this game i still cant get the campaign mode on it so please fix it cuz i have a 3rd gen ipod so it should work just fine.
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  • I am ranked #104-110.
    I loved MSO, I hate this new game (I will not say update). I will not detail the reasons, other gamers made it very well.

    I don't think you will give us back MSO... This should show to the whole smartphone games market you made a mistake... Indeed, but you can't do that.

    I have 99 coins left in game, gonna spend them for bisno (never used them but are great in this new game)

    Then I will delete this shit.

    Tonight I am sad, and I don't thank you for it.
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  • this game is bull shit , I like the old version with graphic , new updated is so hard to control,the red arrow turn around , like circle, make me crazy , tired , and the standard or ram missile is so hard to hit the target , unless you have to spend the money for bisnovat missile, , I never spend any more buck for this game , this game is POS
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  • The news update sounds good. Now to the Do's
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  • ve lo dico in italiano: IO SONO vALENTINA cANFORA (ti ho purgato) e io sono il numero 11 in total versus e 5 in skill rating...adesso il gioco fa veramente schifo! io adoravo questo gioco...ci giocavo sempre spendendo anche tanti soldi..ma adesso giocare per essere battuto da uno alle prime armi...con gli aerei che spariscono...i missili che non si vedono..il gioco a scatti...il mitra che non serve...AVETE FATTO PER LA SECONDA VOLTA ( LA PRIMA A LUGLIO CON UN AGGIORNAMENTO VERGOGNOSO ) TREMENDO...avete rovinato tutto...RIMETTETE LA VERSIONE VECCHIA!!!E FATE UN ALTRO GIOCO COME VOLETE MA RIMETTETE LA VECCHIA VERSIONEEEEEEEEEEE...MA PROVATELI GLI AGGIORNAMENTI PRIMA!!!!!!!!DALLE STELLE ALLE STALLE..ADESSO ODIO QUESTO GIOCO.
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  • Bjjdude2 signing off for good ranked top 100-110 I am deleting game spent lots of money on bisnos, the should miss me my question - what other games will I like similar to MSO? Keep the suggestions coming
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  • I have played a few more vs games and the game is so jerky I am now questioning if this may also have something to do with upgrading to ios 5? I'm on a iPod gen4 - anyone else noticed things get worse after updating to the new iOS? Is everyone else's MSO really jerky now?
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  • Now Z2Live,after view days of your update I almost can hear the silence in the Game.
    According the Rankings there is not much going on in your so called update,hu?.
    Your servers having a vacation on data traffic.
    It seem to me that message is clear and your time is short.
    Z2Live you are the only one in app world who causes so much problems and troubles every update you bring out.
    This is what you get when you fuck with loyalty,a worthless game that hardly gets played.
    For now I think you guys of Z2Live deserve it!!!

    BRAVO TO THE PLAYERS STICKING TOGETHER...
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  • Do you people use focus groups before you update?

    This new update looks more like a backdate. The planes look different but they have no character. I shoot down two green eagles with 2 or 3 missiles without BISNOS! They fly and move at the same speeds! What a joke! What group of retards designed the update? I hope they were in pre-school.

    The background graphics look more like a cartoon made in the 40's than reality. I was looking for Bugs Bunny to pop his head out and say, "What up Doc?"

    ONE THING IS FOR SURE MISSILE USE HAS MORE THAN DOUBLED BECAUSE THE CANNONS ARE USELESS! AND THAT MEANS MO MONEY! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!
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  • I’m Angry
    Am I the only one having connection problems with this update??? Every time
    I open the app it starts loading then says "an unexpected error occurred on the server." I've tried uninstalling it and have it on multiple devices but it still crashes. I really like this game so PLEASE fix!!!
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  • Anyone checked to make sure that 'sync with icloud' is OFF? I turned mine off and I think it helps. But i've been up all night 'studying'
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  • Took off the emoji from my name and now it works fine. Thanks for the help!
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  • Update from an employee:

    Hey guys! We have just finished up our first round of play testing! The MetalStorm team was here all weekend making fixes and tweaks until the play testers put the new build through it’s paces. Our group of hardcore players said that the canons are now working and sounding better. Next up is balancing missiles and bug fixes. We'll have a patch out soon, so stay tuned!
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  • fix the spawning for one thing spawning really far away from enemys is stupid. i faced a saber fully loaded with bisnos and everytime i spawned, i died. completely unfair. i even give noobs a chance of killing me by flying away from them and flying back at them. also fix the agility on all planes i dont like the fact that even an eagle could cacth me when were spinning around eachother. i know you guys are fixing other stuff but please consider fixing atleast the agility.
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  • I can't notice much difference and find it still chaotic gameplay.
    No feeling of control in dogfights that was in MSO.
    Canons are still useless on my side.
    The only thing I noticed was that I could dodge some bisnoos in my Hawken.
    I always flew Mako but this version I use Weapons class which are best to fly in my opinion.
    Still very much to do
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  • Connection errors again.. This time it says "unable to find match, local player is not authenticated" ????? On verses mode. Are you guys working on the game or what?
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  • I enjoy the game and it,s great! Suggest to give some additional lives or upgraded ammo during more difficult assignments, e.g. Destroying factory! it would be very helpful!
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  • From MSO:

    Hey guys! We just submitted an update for MetalStorm: Wingman to Apple. Campaign Mode is largely the same, the only main change is that cannons are now more effective. Versus Mode has been revamped to feel more like the old MSO.

    Here are the main fixes this update takes care of:
    -Rebalanced and enhanced cannons and missiles for PvP
    -Updated sounds for cannons and missiles
    -HUD update [check out the screenshot!]
    -Networking optimization
    -Multiple feature fixes
    -Target indicators should now correctly identify direction of opponents
    -Game no longer immediately calibrates at respawn (Fix for multi-player)

    Thanks for being patient and hanging tight while we continue to make MetalStorm great!
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  • Well I guess i should go check out the work. Thanks for the hard work
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  • No sound except the music, still invisable planes firing missles, still cant fire in some matches.. FIXED??? NOT!!!!
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  • Nope. Shot down a green eagle after spending a minute dodging missiles coming from nowhere then got blown up before I finished respawning.
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  • hello Danusha, the red arrow is spining around at the begining, cant track the opponent ??? , , some games does not have prolem, the game is back normal, run smooth after I restart my IPhone 4, 4.1 version jailbreaked ,I played over 8000 game before , win 5500 ,today I used saber with ram missile beated a couple chinese F- 51 hawkin over 4000 game played and f -106 thresher, new version of the bisnoos missile speed too fast ,seem increase speed , could not avoid , that is unfair , Z2 live try to make more money from some rich kids with slow rate skill to used that
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    • Indeed. It appears that the game slows and becomes jerky when there is a lot of shooting, missiles and explosions - in fact anything that seems to demand more on the idevice's hardware - this is demonstrated acutely when you have just blown up your opponent's plane and fly through the explosion. It appears that in 'improving' the graphics etc, the game is no longer able to run smoothly on the slightly older devices... Unless those with an iPad 2 or iPhone 4s are having the same trouble.

      Another thought is that since pressing the home key no longer disconnects you, there must be a whole load of people unnecessarily still logged onto the services until the game servers automatically disconnect them after a set period of inactivity. Perhaps this additional and unneeded server traffic is slowing down their servers???

      Whatever the cause, it's not much fun anymore :(
    • Exactly my synopsis, anything that causes more graphical power to be used (and due to the device hosted nature of the game, the extra processing required to create these effects, mainly explosions) makes the frame rate slow down and the game lag.
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  • For sure..
    The bisnos are ridiculous. Hey, I use them frequently, but if you happen to spawn within range of someone using them , you're toast in 5-10 seconds 90% of the time
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  • I used some trick to avoid by 10 second, some game I dont have any prolem with toast .then easy to beat opponent I have no idea what happen with new version , Z2 live have to work some more
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  • Biggest problem is is you're fighting against a weapons class like a saber. By they time you respawn there are 4 to 6 missiles headed toward you.
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  • I wonder how much money z2lost with that update lol! I know I haven't played much and lots of people on the fan club have boycotted. I personally have come to love Rise of Glory a great WW1game so realistic great dogfighting. Hope that new update gets an approval.
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  • Hey Z2Live, so when is the ETA for the new update? I am getting annoyed on these noobs and their "camouflage" (invisible) planes blasting me out of the sky.
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  • I’m Hoping patience is a virtue!
    Look forward to it ...

    Any specific plans to fix the 'chat' non-function problems at all?

    Seems to be a repeat topic on this forum. I hope so.

    Thanks
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  • fix the rudder animations, these are completly wrong. if i turn left the left rudder have to go up and not down !!
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  • I have missles flying through planes now. Thats nice. Goodbye. 
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